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Comet Auth Part-Color Logo Comet Auth B&W Logo

Comet Auth Full Color Logo Comet Auth Waterline Logo (Logos from 1945 Catalog)


Please refer to the Ordnance page, et seq.

INDEX:

Because the indexing of Comet AUTHENTICAST information has gotten too complex to keep up to date on each of the many individual pages,
a Master Index will be used for currency and the indices on each individual page may not be kept current.   new (14 Jan 2013)

On the main Authenticast/Comet page:
  Comet Metal Products, Inc.
  AUTHENTICAST

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 1:
  Comet Metal Products History
    (collected and moved there 02 Jul 03)
  1945 Comet Metal Products AUTHENTICAST Catalog
    Tank Scale of 1:108
  1945 Comet Metal Products AUTHENTICAST Price List
  AUTHENTICAST Ship Models.
  AUTHENTICAST Miscellany.

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 2:
  1950s Fitted Case of Tanks.
  Atomic Cannon
  Honest John
  USS Northampton - CLC-1
  South Salem Studios
  Comet, AUTHENTICAST, South Salem, and Related Links

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 3:
  Comet Then and Now and Map.
  The Greater World of Comet AUTHENTICAST - A History.   Red, White, and Blue Boxes.

On this Authenticast/Comet continuation page 4:
  WWII Tank ID Box.
  1:500 Ships Price List.
  Mystery Model - 1:48 ELCO PT Boat.
  Old AUTHENTICAST Photos.
  WWII Japanese Ships ID Box.

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 5:
  1950s Fitted Case of Tanks, 1-50 (continued from Cont. Page 2).

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 6:
  1950s Fitted Case of Tanks, 51 - 100 (continued from Cont. Page 5.

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 7:
  1950s Fitted Case of Tanks, comments (continued from Cont. Page 6).

On the Authenticast/Comet continuation page 8:
  South Salem Studio's U. S. Ships Navy Case
  Comet Authenticast HELP!

On the Ordnance Continuation Page 1:
  MORE ORDNANCE APOCRYPHA

On the Ordnance Continuation Page 2:
  RAILROAD GUNS.
  ATOMIC CANNON.
  SMALL ARMS.

On Ordnance Continuation Page 3:
  CALIBER (Calibre).
  Anzio Annie.
  SMALL ARMS (moved from Page 2 on 13 Apr 00)
  BIBLIOGRAPHY
  Russian Armor.
  HELP!

Comet "Authenticast" 1:432 Aircraft Models,

and see Airplanes on the main Comet/AUTHENTICAST page.


Comet Metal Products Co., Inc.
AUTHENTICAST

Comet Auth Part-Color Logo Comet Auth B&W Logo

Comet Auth Full Color Logo Comet Auth Waterline Logo (Logos from 1945 Catalog)


Comet AUTHENTICST WWII Tank ID Box

An amazing (to me, at least) find turned up!  The Rev. Timothy Henley wrote that he'd spotted a WWII tank ID model box in a second-hand store and was kind enough to furnish details and photos; here's what he first saw and what's inside:

Henley Com/AUTH box
(Thumbnailed picture - click on the image for a larger picture.)

Henley Com/AUTH box open
[All pictures courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

The outer markings are so faded as to be virtually indecipherable.

[Many of the detailed photos which follow have been cropped and doctored by me,
but NOT at the expense of any visual detail.]

Three pieces were loose and are shown in front of the opened box and in detail:

Henley Com/AUTH loose

Henley Com/AUTH loose lft Henley Com/AUTH loose rt

Henley Com/AUTH loose ctr
[All pictures courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

It would appear that the pin on the turret of the right-hand tankette swelled from IGC (InterGranular Corrosion), or the hole swelled, and it snapped off; that on the M10A1 probably just sheared off mechanically.

Next, here are closer shots of the left and right sides:

Henley Com/AUTH box l Henley Com/AUTH box r
[All pictures courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

For an even better look, Rev. Henley sent these head-on views:

Henley Com/AUTH box lh Henley Com/AUTH box rh
[All pictures courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

Those models that didn't break loose are held in place by threaded studs which project through the removable plywood shelves and have a nut underneath:

Henley Com/AUTH box shelf
[Picture courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

The printing on the underside of the shelves is also so faded as to be virtually illegible on most shelves.

Then, icing on the cake, Rev. Henley sent me a very-high-resolution copy of a contact sheet of individual shots of each model (it's some 38Mb and, no, I did NOT post it):

Henley Com/AUTH contact sheet
[Picture courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]
(Thumbnailed picture - click on the image for a larger picture.)

I have identified the individual model photos as follows:
   1  2  3  4  5
   6  7  8  9 10
  11 12 13 14 15
  16 17 18 19 20
  21 22 23 24 25
  26 27 28 29 30
  31 32 33 34 35
  36 37 38 39 40
that is because not all are captioned correctly; Rev. Henley did his best based on information gleaned from another site.

I then cropped out and reformatted each one so you can see these great shots up close (the crops are not to any uniform scales, refer to the above contact sheet for relative sizing); I have not changed the captions but rather commented above each as I deemed appropriate, nor have I verified the AUTHENTICAST model numbers (yet - I sure hope I can turn up that little green ca.-1945 handbook) -

1 - a half TRACK; 2 - an M6, (not an MB, Mark II or otherwise):
Henley Com/AUTH box 1 Henley Com/AUTH box 2
[All pictures courtesy of and © 2004 T. E. Henley - all rights reserved]

3 - an M7 Priest (not an M&), missing its main gun barrel; 4 - M10A1:
Henley Com/AUTH box 3 Henley Com/AUTH box 4

5 - M18 Hellcat Tank destroyer (not M1B); 6 - M3 Gun Motor Carriage (not M8 Howitzer Carrier):
Henley Com/AUTH box 5 Henley Com/AUTH box 6

7 - {OK}; 8 - M8 (not MB):
Henley Com/AUTH box 7 Henley Com/AUTH box 8

9 - {OK}; 10 - M5A1 (not MSA1) - turret reversed:
Henley Com/AUTH box 9 Henley Com/AUTH box 10

11 - M10A1; 12 - turret reversed:
Henley Com/AUTH box 11 Henley Com/AUTH box 12

13 - {OK}; 14 - by it's modern, large turret, that's the Churchill Black Prince,
as I recall, with its turret reversed:
Henley Com/AUTH box 13 Henley Com/AUTH box 14

15 - {OK}; 16 - main and secondary gun missing (see 21):
Henley Com/AUTH box 15 Henley Com/AUTH box 16

17 - Churchill Mk II (not Daimler); 18 - another Churchill Mk II
(not a Covenanter Mk IV, a cruiser tank) [odd - these are identical except for the post]:
Henley Com/AUTH box 17 Henley Com/AUTH box 18

19 - Daimler Armored Car (not Infantry Mk IV); 20 - the famed Matilda:
Henley Com/AUTH box 19 Henley Com/AUTH box 20

21 - {OK} (see 16) ["UK" is a post-WWII term]; 22 - both secondary guns (in separate turrets) bent down:
Henley Com/AUTH box 21 Henley Com/AUTH box 22

23 - {REALLY odd*}; 24 - this is a PzKpfw III, but a later version with added armor:
Henley Com/AUTH box 23 Henley Com/AUTH box 24
[* - look at the track on the Pazerjäger, which is nothing more than a special open turret on an stock
PzKpfw I chassis; the rear sprocket is raised but is NOT raised on the standard PzKpfw I (?)} (see below* - #29)!
and see enlarged views and comments below]

25 - PzKpfw 234{?}, turret reversed; 26 - PzKpfw 38t [Tschechisch (Czech)]:
Henley Com/AUTH box 25 Henley Com/AUTH box 26

27 - added armor (Model G is Ausführung G); 28 - {OK}:
Henley Com/AUTH box 27 Henley Com/AUTH box 28

29 - PzKpfw I (not III) {see #23, above*}; 30 - main gun missing {see #31}:
Henley Com/AUTH box 29 Henley Com/AUTH box 30
[* and see enlarged views and comments below]

31 - {see #30}; 32 - turret reversed:
Henley Com/AUTH box 31 Henley Com/AUTH box 32

33, 34 - {OK}:
Henley Com/AUTH box 33 Henley Com/AUTH box 34

35, 36 - {OK}:
Henley Com/AUTH box 35 Henley Com/AUTH box 36

37, 38 - I don't know what the A and B are for; these appear to be one and the same vehicle:
Henley Com/AUTH box 37 Henley Com/AUTH box 38

39, 40 - {OK}:
Henley Com/AUTH box 39 Henley Com/AUTH box 40

Looks like it's long past time for me to do the full photo bit on my 90-some-odd tank models.

How I wish I could find that little ca.-1945 handbook!

- - - * - - -

Those two PzKpfw I chassis (23 vs. 29) are a puzzlement, indeed; here are enlarged crops of the two for comparison:

HenleyCom/AUTHbox23x" HenleyCom/AUTHbox29x"

* - The Pazerjäger (23 - left), which is nothing more than a special open turret on a stock PzKpfw I chassis, has the rear sprocket raised on the suspension, but it is NOT raised on the standard PzKpfw I (#29 - right)!  Odd, indeed; there must have been two different suspension plate/track molds at one time.

A correspondent has (Nov/Dec 2008) a set of Comet AUTHENTICAST 1:108 (1"=9') WWII Tanks in their original red, white, and blue pasteboard boxes; this set is now {was?} available - see Comet Authenticast Page A (on sbiii.com).


1:500 Ships Price List

Paul Jacobs found this undated Teacher Scale 1:500 ship models price list, along with a Comet AUTHENTICAST letter of transmittal dated 25 Jun 1954 (from which I have deleted the name and address for privacy):

1:500 Ships P. L.
(Thumbnailed image - click on picture for larger image) [Picture courtesy of P. Jacobs - all rights reserved]

Comet AUTH ltr 25Jun54
(Thumbnailed image - click on picture for larger image) [Picture courtesy of P. Jacobs - all rights reserved]

A correspondent has (Nov/Dec 08) a very rare cased U. S. Navy set of 1:1200 American WWII ships from BOTH Comet AND South Salem Studios; this cased set is now available - see Comet Authenticast Page B (on sbiii.com).   rev.gif (04 Dec 08)


Mystery Model

Speaking of mysteries and ship (or, more properly, boat) models, the Electric Boat Company (ELCO) of Bayonne, New Jersey, was the biggest producer of PT boats in World War II.  PT 109 was an ELCO boat.  They were 80' long.  This model is of a late war ELCO PT boat.  It is 20" long (thus 1:48 scale), made of metal, very well made and finely detailed.  It is gray in color, with a dark red bottom, mounted on a mahogany base with a Plexiglas cover:   new.gif (01 Sep 08)

ELCO-PT-Model
[Picture courtesy of buyer - all rights reserved]
(click on thumbnailed image for larger picture.)

The seller told the buyer that this was a promotional model made at ELCO.  Another source told him that this model was built at Comet Metal Products by commission of ELCO.  The model was made in 1945; along with a few others.  ELCO presented these models to VIP's to promote their product (PT boats).

Which story is true?  Does anyone know the real story behind this model?  Everything the buyer has been told is hearsay.  We'd love to hear from you.


Old AUTHENTICAST Photos

As noted on the main page, I used to make all sorts of things out of shirt cardboard, such as a fortress-cum-castle with an operating drawbridge, from which I got the idea to build a rather large landing ship/craft, sort of like a giant LCVP-cum-LCI-cum-LST, with an operating bow ramp, to transport my AUTHENTICAST tanks and AFVs and troops across the carpet ocean to the carpet beachhead; I found some and here is Fort Cardboard, with an M6 heavy tank crossing the drawbridge behind an M8 Greyhound armored car, and an M3 75mm Half-Track (hidden in the lens flare), with an M3A1 armored car and a Seep standing by:   rev (03 Aug 2011)

AUTH Fort
(ca. 1945 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Those are 37mm anti-tank guns peeking out of the bigger gun ports and 50 cal. machine guns in the smaller ones, with kneeling soldiers behind the crenelations.  Perhaps the vehicles were sallying forth to the Battle of Counterpane (slightly lightstruck):

AUTH Battle
(ca. 1945 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

That's a black, rubberoid HO-scale Ju-87b Stuka ID model nosed in.

Now, if only I can find more of these photos.

I got my first Kodak Portralens ca. 1946 (still have it) and mounted it on my Voightlander bellows camera, "arranged" for two belligerent warrior ants to be in the proximity of the M3 Grant, and took a series of pictures of the resultant "battle" [this one (cropped dramatically) turned up - wonder where the others are]:

AUTHM3Ant
(ca. 1945 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)


WWII Japanese Ships ID Box

[Originally posted 24 Feb 05 and heavily revised 26/27 Feb 05.]

What have we here?  Yet another type of WWII ships ID box, one with only eight (8) models in it.  Happily, the finder/owner respects them (he works for the U. S. Navy and will display the set).  These were found in an attic of a house purchased.  The box is labeled "US Miniature Models Japanese Navy Sup. 11" and stamped "1310" on the wood by the hinges.  The ships are labeled with their name and have "Comet Metal Products Richmond Hill" stamped on the bottoms of the wood shelves on which the ships are mounted.  The names stamped on the underside of the wood shelves the owner originally could read are the Tenryu, Mizuho, Izumo, Hosyo (the aircraft carrier), and Kuma.

Here is the box and the top with the stenciling:

Jap.Box8

Jap.Boxtop8
(Feb. 2005 photos by owner - all rights reserved)

Next, the box with its cover off, showing the contents:

Jap.Boxtop8open

The markings cast into the sides of the models were so faint the owner hadn't noticed them at first; with the aid of a magnifying glass, they turned out to be as follows (the alphabetical classes are USN classes):
(1) JINGEI CLASS JAP AS -      (5) KUMA CLASS JAP CL
(2) IZUMO CLASS JAP OCA -      (6) HOSHO CLASS JAP CV
(3) TENRYU CLASS JAP CL -      (7) MIZUHO CLASS JAP CVS
(4) KATORI CLASS JAP TRNG CL - (8) NO. 13 CLASS JAP AM

NOTE - Hosho is shown as "Hosyo" both on the underside of the shelf AND in the 1945 Price List.  The key illustration which follows synopsizes the data:

Jap.Box8ID

Now, I depart from my usual posting practice; what follows are cropped pictures of the models as thumbnails, clicking on them will yield the full image of each cubby in top-down and left-right order (the descriptions which underlie the photos are a combination of the cast-in data and information from Paul Jacobs):

Jap.Box8-1 Jap.Box8-5
[ 1 - Jingei (auxiliary, submarine tender) / 5 - Kuma (cruiser, light) ]

Jap.Box8-2 Jap.Box8-6
[ 2 - Izumo (cruiser, light) / 6 - Hosho (carrier, aircraft) ]

Jap.Box8-3 Jap.Box8-7
[ 3 - Tenryu (cruiser, light) / 7 - Mizuho (carrier, seaplane) ]

Jap.Box8-4 Jap.Box8-8
[ 4 - Katori (small cruiser, training) / 8 - No. 13 Class (auxiliary, minesweeper) ]
(Feb. 2005 photos by owner - all rights reserved)
{Cropped thumbnailed images - click on picture for full cubby image}

The names are as read from the badly faded inscriptions and the cast-in impressions and as corrected and amplified by Paul Jacobs.

There was something odd about this set to me; some of the ships didn't match the 1945 catalog on cont. page 1, nor did they appear on the 1945 price list on that page.  Once Paul Jacobs set me straight, of course, all are right there on the price list or in the catalog [exceptions on the price list: Izumo is listed as a "Coast Defense Ship" {gunboat?} and Mizuho as a Large Seaplane Tender {but Paul says it was a true carrier in that it launched and recovered scout seaplanes, albeit on the water].  In addition, except for the ship models in cubbies 1, 4, and 8, the models are of very old ship designs; I think it may be a very early set, perhaps even the oldest extant.  If anyone knows otherwise, please advise me (I'm checking further).

[Originally posted 24 Feb 2005 and heavily revised 26/27 Feb 2005.]



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