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note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

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See also the Aviation Page, et seq.

World War I Eberhart SE-5E
(American-built Version of the Royal Aircraft Factory's SE-5a)
Image from USAF Museum Site.


For aviation matters in general, see the main Aviation page.

On the Aviation Humor Page:
    Good Chute!.
    Clutch-Starting a Jet!.
    Good Stretch!
    Kulula Airlines
  new.gif (20 Jul 2011)

Nota bene - I am a passenger; NOT a pilot!  Although I logged many hours in the Link trainer at NYC's late (and, by many, lamented) Museum of Science and Industry, I only had the command controls once, ca. 1980, in the right-hand seat of a Cessna 210, when our pilot seemed determined to B-25 the Empire State Building and I conned us away from that fate.

You might visit my other pages which are replete with aviation-related historical information, such as railroads, Emile Berliner and his son Henry A. Berliner*), Chrysler and SS and Jaguar, the ordnance page, and the Fairchild Aerial Survey page.

AVIATION - continued

World War I Eberhart SE-5E
(American-built Version of the Royal Aircraft Factory's SE-5a)
Image from USAF Museum Site.


On the main Aviation page:
  George C. Dade
  V-1 Buzz Bombs
  Bell FM-1 Airacuda
  TWIN-FUSELAGE AIRPLANES (moved to Aviation page 5 on 09 Jul 2002)
  All-Time Favo(u)rites - My Choices (moved to Aviation page 4 on 29 Mar 2002)
  Boeing 307 Stratoliner
  Strombecker Kits

On Aviation Continuation Page 2:
  Berliner and Aviation
  More on the Bell FM-1 Airacuda.
  Bell P-59 Airacomet.
  Junkers Ju52/3m.

On Aviation Continuation Page 3:
  LTA - Lighter Than Air
  More Aviation Apocrypha.
{so far}, plus miscellany.
(moved from the main and second Aviation pages 27 Jan 00)
  Strombecker Kits
(moved from main Aviationpage 09 Mar 00)
  Long Island Chopper - H34 to fly again

On Aviation Continuation Page 4:
  All-Time Favo(u)rites - My Choices (moved here from main page 29 Mar 2002)
  Marine Air Terminal (La Guardia).
  Casey Jones' Academy of Aeronautics.
  Dinky Meccano Aircraft Models.
  Comet Authenticast 1:432 Aircraft Models.

On the preceding Aviation Continuation Page 5:
    TWIN-FUSELAGE AIRPLANES (moved from the main Aviation page on 09 Jul 2002)

P-38 Lockheed Lightning
F-82 Twin Mustang
Twin Ercoupe
FW 189 Uhu
He 111Z "Zwilling"
    Me 321/323 "Gigant"

On this Aviation Continuation Page 6:

XP-49 Lockheed Lightning.
XP-58 Lockheed Chain Lightning.
Twin Cub.
    Champlain Flying Club's 1946 Aeronca Champ.
    Long Island Air Museums.
Cradle of Aviation Museum.
American Airpower Museum.
    Stout/Ford Trimotors (see also the Tri-motor Page).

On Aviation Continuation Page 7:
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    Avianca Flight 52 (25 Jan 1990).   new.gif (24 Dec 2012)

Aviation Tri-motor Page).

See also the Aviation Humor page.

You might visit my other pages which are replete with aviation-related historical information, such as railroads, Emile Berliner and his son Henry A. Berliner*), Chrysler and SS and Jaguar, the ordnance page, and the Fairchild Aerial Survey page.

This North American P-51D Mustang model, NL51PT Petie 3rd, clearly was built to 1':12" scale but is equally clearly a 1:87.1 (HO scale) model:

(photos from, courtesy of, and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

This photo, reproduced by specific written permission, is from Brian Lockett's fabulous virtual Goleta Air & Space Museum, which I strongly recommend to you that are "air-minded"!


(continued from the preceding continuation page 5 and that, in turn,
from the main Aviation page)

XP-49 Lockheed Lightning - this one-off oddity was a development of the original P-38 Lockheed Lightning which was over-elaborated and never saw service, let alone production.  Other than general beefing-up, it's main difference was that it was intended to pack two 20mm cannon (the P-38 had one) and four .50 cal. MG (the armament was never fitted) and that it had longer nacelles and higher vertical tail fins*.  Here is a USAF image from the USAF Museum:

[Image courtesy of USAF Museum - all rights reserved]

* - the fins were not repainted after they were extended and more stripes were simply added - there were 15 instead of 13.

XP-58 Lockheed Chain Lightning - another one-off oddity developed from the original P-38 Lockheed Lightning which was also the victim of endless fiddling; its claim to fame was that it had a rear gunner, enormously-upgraded forward-firing main armament (four 37mm cannon or one 75mm cannon, plus two .50 cal. MGs) and one each .50 cal. rear-firing dorsal and ventral MG turrets.

Here are a USAF image from the Aviation Enthusiast Corner and two from Jirka Wagner's Czech MILITARY.CZ site:

XP58AF XP58JWgrd XP58JWflt
[Images courtesy of AEC (left) and J. Wagner (center and right) - all rights reserved]
(Thumbnailed images - click on pictures for slightly larger images)

If the Air Corps/Force hadn't messed around with the specs endlessly, Lockheed would have had a real winner here; it would have made a ferocious fighter-bomber.  As it was, only a single prototype was built and flown (06 Jun 1944), too late for use.

Twin Cub

Frank Roales, a R/C scale model builder who enjoys building and flying "odd" subjects, was researching the Twin Ercoupe for a possible next project and found my pages and contacted me on 16 Oct 2003.  He has not been able to find out the colors used on the aircraft.  Dave McKenzie, noted in the preceding Twin Ercoupe coverage, who flew with Grady Thrasher, advises that the "Twin 'Coupe" was painted red and white and that examination of the photos clearly shows what the paint scheme was.

One of Frank's "odd" subjects was the "Wagner Twin Cub", of which he built a ¼ scale (wingspan 126" or 10' 2") flying model which flew quite well (as, strangely enough, did the prototype).  There was a well-illustrated article on this odd beast in the March 1984 issue of Air Classics (pp. 67-73).  That article also covered another oddity not germane here, a twin-engined Tri-Pacer also built by Harold A. Wagner.  Basically, what Wagner did was to put a 1946 J-3 Cub (on the right) and a 1947 PA-11 Cub (on the left) together, mating stub wings and tailplanes, and adding some struts between the fuselages.  The J-3 had only its starboard main gear and the PA-11 only it port main gear, but both fuselages retained their tail wheels.  Wagner also offset the props by putting a 4¾" spacer on the PA-11 engine hub, extending that (port) prop some 2½" in front of the other!

For those other than the cognoscenti, these are Piper Cubs we are discussing.

Koen van de Kerckhove from Belgium has a great site, Nest of Dragons, about weird airplanes, with a page full of Twins (and worse)!  It has a photo of not only the Twin Cub but, lurking in the left background, the 1951-52 Twin Tri-Pacer!  You can readily see how Wagner mounted two 125HP Lycomings 20" apart in a widened nacelle:

Wagner Twin Cub, Twin Tri-Pacer, Wagner?

Mikael Aksdal of Norway's Bergen Veteranfly Klubb posted a similar picture of the Twin Cub, also without even realizing that the Twin Tri-Pacer is in the left background, but, on this photo, one can assume that's Harold A. Wagner standing in front (the resolution is far too coarse to tell):

Wagner Twin Cub AND Tri-Pacer

Whacky, but it flew sweetly first crack out of the barrel (on 06 Dec 1951), as does Frank Roales's model:

Roales Wagner Twin Cub 1

Roales Wagner Twin Cub 2

Looks real, doesn't it?  Guess again:

Roales and Twin Cub 3
(photos courtesy of F. Roales - all rights reserved)

Wagner made these craft to get higher performance and succeeded very well, indeed.  By rights, the silly things shouldn't have flown at all or should have vibrated to pieces, but they did no such thing, each performing quite credibly.  Anyone know what ever became of them?

I'd no sooner started to post these pix when I ran into ANOTHER Twin Cub model, by Scrubby Skrabala, of Lubbock, Texas, on Shelley Moore's The FlyBaby site!  A Rick Lazzar also built one which he flew at a Southern New Hampshire R/C Club meet, as did Phil Morgan, who came in second at a RAF Model Aircraft Ass'n indoor meet across the pond.

Shelley came though instantly with permission to post; here are Scrubby, himself (who looks very much like Frank!) at the pre-flight and after and the model:

Skrabala Twin Cub 0 Skrabala Twin Cub 5 Skrabala Twin Cub 1

Skrabala Twin Cub 2 Skrabala Twin Cub 3 Skrabala Twin Cub 4
(S. Skrabala photos courtesy of M. Skarabala via J. S. Moore - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for full images.]

There's something else strange about the Twin Cub (as if its very existence weren't strange enough)!  Air Classics specifically states that the J-3 had a 65HP engine and the P-11 an 85HP one, yet Frank's model shows 85 for both; looking back at the article, Frank's cowls are lettered exactly as Wagner's were, both reading 85.  A bit of J-3 tweaking, p'r'aps, or re-engining, or even Wagnerian poetic license?  Phil Morgan advises that the J-3 was remotored.

You want more on Twin Cub models; thanks to Phil Morgan and the Royal Air Force Model Aircraft Association, of which he is now chair of Indoor activities (and well-deservedly so), here are three photos of Phil's indoor flying model, two on the ground/floor and a rare one of it taking off:

P. Morgan Twin Cub RAF 1 P. Morgan Twin Cub RAF 2 P. Morgan Twin Cub t/o RAF 3
(RAFMAA photos courtesy of C. Waite - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for full images.]

These were taken at the RAFMAA Indoor1competition November 2002.

If that doesn't satiate you, here are more photos from Peter, himself, showing just how he constructed the model (no wonder he's a contest winner!):

P. Morgan Twin Cub 00 P. Morgan Twin Cub 03 P. Moore Twin Cub 13

P. Morgan Twin Cub 13 P. Morgan Twin Cub 23
(photos courtesy of P. Morgan - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for full images.]

Not content with such excellent images, the redoubtable Mr. Morgan favo(u)red us with this description of the craft:

"The model is built to 1/18th scale, following the full size structure closely.  Wing span: 29".  Motors: 2 x Knight & Pridham KP00 electric driving K&P 5" propellers cut down to 4½".  Power: 4 x 50mA Nicads in series, 2 cells in each fuselage, motors wired in series with 10R trimmer pot to control motor revs.  Flying weight: 105 grams."

"The colour scheme was a bit of a problem.  All I had was factory finish for J3 and PA11 Cubs.  The J3 was OK, all yellow with black trim, but what was a PA11.  My wife found a black and white foot of the twin in Aerofiles, which was the only picture I had of the port side, which showed the colour scheme pattern.  I then came across a colour photo of a PA11 with the owner wearing a red white and blue tee shirt.  This was converted to a greyscale picture and a best guess made from this to end up with a red and yellow scheme.  After completion of the model, more information was acquired and blue might well be the real colour?"

Resourceful, to say the least, what? Thanks, RAFMAA and Phil Morgan!

Phil also writes that the engines on the prototype started out at 65hp and that, on the final configuration, both fuselages were fitted with 85hp engines.  Further, "there is a very nice article by Philip Jarrett with photos and three-view drawing in the Aeroplane magazine dated November 1999".  "Additional information including confirmation of colour scheme can be found in the book Piper Cubs page 128/129."

It would appear that even more Twin Cub photos (proto or model) are forthcoming - stay tuned!

The RAFMAA site has a link to Sams Models - Everything for the Aeromodeller (especially electric drives) - how could I NOT link it here?

The Champlain Flying Club's

1946 Aeronca Champ

CCFC Aeronca Champ
(Undated photo from the S. Simon collection - all rights reserved)

I attended, briefly (1952-53), Champlain College in Plattsburg(h), New York, on the grounds of the old Plattsburg Barracks (the Army's cushiest post), which closed in June 1953 when the USAF took it back to become the Plattsburgh AFB in 1953.  The school had a flying club, the Champlain Flying Club, which bought its Aeronca Champ new from the Aeronca plant in Ohio in 1946,  It was sold through a Québec dealer in 1956 (wonder who had it from June 1953?), and was bought by a farmer in Rigaud, Québec, named Willy Lamothe, in flyable condition (it went across the border in February 1956 on skis), and was stored in the open behind his barn together with a junker.  Recently (as of 31 Oct 2004), an Air Canada senior pilot (who piloted the last Air Canada 747 ca. 30-31 Oct 2004) bought the craft (and the hangar queen) sight-unseen and it turns out to be the actual CFC plane!  Not only that, but he has all the paperwork from day one, log book and all, is only the third owner, and proposes to restore her to flying condition (she even has her original engine in place!).

Other than some details of who signed the bill of sale from the CFC and such, the rest of this story is more an aviation miracle than a CC story and will be fleshed out here.  The new owner, who collects, restores, tests, and flies antique aircraft and collects aircraft books, photos, and such, and who hopes to rebuild her to her original state in her original color scheme, would like color photos of the plane in its CFC livery, both inside and out.  He also asks that we keep an eye out for Aeronca aircraft parts and instruments as well as pre-1955 aviation manuals, books, and magazines.

Long Island Air Museums

Long Island (New York, just west of New York City) was one of the earliest centers of U. S. flight and hosted many famous airports and manufacturers, notably Floyd Bennett Field, Mitchel Field, and Roosevelt Field, and Sperry, Republic, and Grumman.  A world-class aviation museum exists in Garden City in former Mitchel Field hangars and new facilities, the Cradle of Aviation Museum and a flying museum in a former Rebublic Aviation hangar, the American Airpower Museum:

Cradle of Aviation Museum - occupying two old WWII hangars on Mitchel Field, with new construction between them, and a state-of-the-art IMAX theater, the Cradle of Aviation features a huge collection of old and recent aircraft, including a 1909 Bleriot Type XI, a Thomas Morse S4C Scout, Lindbergh's own Jenny, an OX-5-powered Fleet, Savoia Marchetti S-56, Grumman Goose, Wildcat, Hellcat, and TBF Avenger, Republic Thunderbolt and SeaBee, and a WWII Waco CG-4a glider, plus many newer aircraft.

American Airpower Museum - situated in an old Republic Aviation hangar on the east side of Republic Field, the AAM features many flyable aircraft of the WWII era, most of which are flown regularly, including a Grumman TBF Avenger, North American B-25 (Hap Arnold's) Mitchell and T-6 Texan, a Douglas C-47 Skytrain/Gooney Bird, a Chance-Vought F4U Corsair, a Curtiss P-40 (Flying Tigers) Warhawk, and a Republic P-47 Thunderbolt/Jug.  In addition, the AAM hosts frequent visits by a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Consolidated-Vultee B-24 Liberator in which rides can be purchased.

Lockheed CONSTELLATION - Arguably the sleekest, sexist plane of its type, the L-049/649/749/C-69 Constellation series and the succeeding L-1049/1649 Super Constellation series rocked the aviation world with their elegant lines.  I still very well remember my father's first flight from LGA to Chicago {?} in one of the first TWA Connies; the plane took off to the west and rotated and was airborne almost instantly.  I was up on the old LGA observation deck and was shocked out of my gourd!  The gear was up and locked long before the plane was over Long Island Sound.

If you love Connies, you have to see Ralph M. Pettersen's Constellation Survivors.

I didn't even remember that there was an L-1649A Starliner with a new wing design and 3,400 hp turbo-compound engines.

Stout/Ford Trimotors

I was going to add more on the Ford Trimotors, originally created by Stout, here; for the nonce, suffice it to say that one was available for
immediate sale as of 22 Aug 2008 and I ended up with so much informationon her that I created a new tri-motor page just for her (25 Dec 2012):

1929 Ford 4-AT-E Tri-Motor NC9612!

This aircraft has been "restored to an extraordinarily high standard".  "This is arguably the most original and perfect example of this historically important aircraft, and it remains a national treasure in its own right".

Pilot Paul Freeman has an absolutely fascinating Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields site which I link at the bottom of my main Aviation page and this one but I want to give it even more play.  I strongly recommend it to you; Paul has maps, photos, and other background on an amazing amassment of abandoned and abstruse airfields, indexed by state (plus D.C. and Puerto Rico).

As you are obviously air-minded (take that as you choose), you must see the Lion Air site!  I'd be Lion if I didn't warn you to keep your tongue in your cheek on this one!

On a more serious note, if you like aero engines, see Steve Vardy's Aero Engine Central.

Also, pilot Paul Freeman has an absolutely fascinating Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields site.

As you are obviously air-minded (take that as you choose), you must see the Lion Air site!  I'd be Lion if I didn't warn you to keep your tongue in your cheek on this one!

On a more serious note, if you like aero engines, see Steve Vardy's Aero Engine Central.

Also, pilot Paul Freeman has an absolutely fascinating Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields site.

See also the main Aviation Page, et seq.:
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of this series of Aviation pages.


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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