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Boxcabs Continuation Page 1

I-R 60-ton Demo

A new type of locomotive!
Ingersoll-Rand 1925 Demonstrator #9681
(later CNJ #1000)
(ALCo builders photo S-1484 - source uncertain;
possibly from 1980s AAR flyer)

 

 

ALCo-GE-IR BOXCAB

Oil-Electric ("Diesel") Locomotives

(American Locomotive Company - General Electric - Ingersoll-Rand)

INDEX to Boxcabs Pages:

note-rt.gif   The primary Boxcabs Index has been moved to a separate page,
together with links and credits.

Boxcab Help - A service for boxcab afficionados,
posting reasonable questions (at my sole discretion).

There are now more than seventy-five (75) BOXCAB pages;
see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.

[A new "bugaboo" has reared its ugly head - complexity of organization -
see COMPLEXITY on my main index page.]


LIRR #401 and Sister Boxcabs Continuation Page

Oil-Electric Locomotives

ALCo-GE-IR

[AGEIR]

(American Locomotive Company - General Electric - Ingersoll-Rand)

LIRR  #401
(Photo from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43)
(image restored - 14 Aug 2004)

PAGE INDEX:

LIRR #401 and Sisters Page

    LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD #401

This LIRR #401 and 100-ton Sisters Continuation Page 1

    Westinghouse Catalog Data on #403.
    EPILOGUE to #401.

    LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD INFORMATION BULLETINs
    on #401 and #403 when new.

The LIRR #401 and 100-ton Sisters Continuation Page 2

    Train Shed Cyclopedia No, 20 on LIRR #401.   new (24 Feb 2014)
    Unindexed further so far; scroll away!

BOXCAB MODELING NOTES - on Boxcabs Models page.

BOXCAB DIMENSIONS - on Boxcabs Models page.


[First of all, I want to credit Bill Russell, Penny Bridge; we seem to be linking back and forth but he has the most compendious site about NY-area railroading,
where most boxcabs lurked, with tons of information.

Second, take a look at Mark Laundry's Yard Limit Diesel Switcher Spotter's and Reference Guide, a site about early diesel switchers, especially a 1994 paper by Benn Coifman on "The Evolution of the Diesel Locomotive in the United States", with an excellent history of the ALCo-GE-IR consortium (on which I have drawn), as well as McKeen, Westinghouse/Baldwin, Hamilton/EMC/EMD, and Pullman's efforts.]

I must credit and thank the late John F. Campbell for much of the latest information about LIRR #401(1) and #402(2); since Sep 00, he had had an extremely detailed and accurate site focusing exclusively on the earliest history of the ALCo-GE-IR (AGEIR) locos, his "ALCO / General Electric / Ingersoll-Rand (AGEIR) Diesel-Electric Locomotives" site.  I heartily recommend it to you!  John Campbell had since added a complete roster of all the ALCo-GE-IR boxcab locos built in the first production run, totalling 33 units, from 1925 to 1930, but not the later Bi- and Tri-Power or GE-IR units.


LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD
Oil-Electric Boxcab Locomotives
#401, #402, and #403a and 403b

401
LIRR #401working a freight at Morris Park in 1948
(Photo by Bob Morgan, courtesy of A. Huneke - all rights reserved)
(image restored - 15 Jun 2005)

The World's First Production Diesel Road Switcher

Also the first diesel to haul a revenue train on a long-distance run

[This page is still a mess - I'm trying to sort out the remaining missing pictures;
please bear with me.]


Art Huneke was kind enough to allow me to reproduce the above photo from his extensive collection, as well as this one by Bill Rugen, ca. 1949, of the #401 sitting in the yard at Morris Park with the #402 directly behind it:

401/2 Mor Pk 49
LIRR #401 and #402 at Morris Park ca. 1949
(Photo by W. J. Rugen, courtesy of A. Huneke -all rights reserved)

Both photos show #401 with the later GE transverse-fan forced-draft radiators (and have been artificially lightened by me to show detail).  Note also that the #401's extended stacks have been aluminized in the second picture.  Art also sent along a better copy of this shot of #403 and #403b;while they are Baldwin-Westinghouse units, covered on the B-W page, q.v., I put it here as well:

<.light./~iiitwo-1/boxpix/403abxah.jpg h=95%> 403a/b
LIRR #403a and #403b at Morris Park
(Photo courtesy of A. Huneke -all rights reserved)

LIRR  #403
(Photo from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43;
image restored - 14 Aug 2004

probably taken under the Kearney, New Jersey, hill, near Manhattan Transfer.)

John Campbell had two ends of a plan view of #401 on his great site; here are the No. 1 ("front") end:

#401 plan 1
(Drawing from John F. Campbell Collection - reproduced by permission - all rights reserved)

and the No. 2 ("rear" or brakewheel end):

#401 plan 2
(Drawing from John F. Campbell Collection - reproduced by permission - all rights reserved;
image restored 30 Jan 2014)

Note the clear placement of the brakestand with brakewheel in the "right" rear.

To go with that, he shows a view down into the locomotive, looking towards the No. 1 ("front") end with the roof hatch not yet installed:

#401 open top
(Photo from John F. Campbell Collection - reproduced by permission - all rights reserved;
image restored 30 Jan 2014)

and a general ghosted side view:

#401 open top
(Image from John F. Campbell Collection - reproduced by permission - all rights reserved;
image restored 30 Jan 2014)

To imagine what the whole plan view might have been like, I doctored the two end plan views and pasted them together, creating the missing middle section and adding 3¾ cylinders to each engine and what I thought might be the exciter from the 60-ton plan view on the narrow (rear) end of the A (left-side) engine (bottom on drawing)1 and 2:   new (18 Feb 2014)

#401planview
(16 Feb 2014 image created by SB,III from drawings from John F. Campbell Collection -
all rights reserved; image revised 18 Feb 2014)

1 - That's NOT the exciter; the exciter's the big "lump" on the far end of the generator,
as shown on a plan view of the five later rounded-end twin-engined "108-ton" units on ALCO Order # S1531
(wonder what that small "blob" might actually be.):ull p

108-tonEndPlan
(Image from John F. Campbell Collection - reproduced by permission - all rights reserved)

2 - How mortifying; I couldn't remember, nor find reference to, which is the No. 1 and the No. 2 engine!
I have an ALCo, GE, or IR drawing or marked photo defining that - but where?
It may have been in the GE manual for Foley Bros. 110-1.  Not quite.
It's my own interior shots of Foley 110-1 and they are A and B, not 1 and 2.

[Bet John would have known both answers and would have corrected my diagram had he noticed!]

Talk about "mortifying"!  I just (20 Feb 2014) discovered that I have had the full plan view all along!  Not only "just" the plan view but also the cross-sectioned elevation and the B-B-B-B and C-C-C-C cross sections and several photographs, as well!  They were in Train Shed Cyclopedia No. 20, "Diesel Electric Locomotives 1925-1938", "Reprinted from the Original Cyclopedia Editions", on the 1927 Cyc pages 1012 through 1016.   new (21 Feb 2014)

I'll post them here in order of interest (to me), with citations.  First, that full plan view:

#401FullPlanView
(23 Feb 2014 image from Fig. 2486 on Page 1012 of TSC No. 20)
[Click on thumbnail for larger image.]

I didn't do all that badly on my fake, above. There are that "No. 14 Westinghouse Distributing Valve" and "¾ Dirt Collector"!

Next, the cross-sectioned elevation view:

#401ElevationView
(23 Feb 2014 image from Fig. 2486 on Page 1012 of TSC No. 20)
[Click on thumbnail for larger image.]

Here are the two lateral cross sectons:

#401BBBBXSection   #401CCCCXSection
(23 Feb 2014 images from Fig. 2494 on Page 1016 of TSC No. 20)
[Click on thumbnails for larger images.]

Wow!  Look at that detail!  You can even detail the clerestory vents from that elevation.

Figures 2487, 2488, 2489, 2491. 2493, 2495, and 2496 (in my order) appear on LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD INFORMATION BULLETINs
on #401 and #403 when new.

LIRR #401 and Sisters Continuation Page 2 (this page)

Train Shed Cyclodedia No, 20 on LIRR #401.   new (24 Feb 2014) Unindexed further so far; scroll away!


Because of this nomenclature nonsense, I made up a diagram just for #401:   new (18 Feb 2014)

401Diagram
(18 Feb 2014 image created by SB,III - all rights reserved)

and was horrified to realize that I've had the A and B sides reversed on my 60-ton diagram scattered around these many boxcab pages since 2004 (and no one picked up on it)!
Worse yet, it would appear that, per Foley Bros. #110-1, the B engine and generator are on the A side and vice-versa!

The assembled plan view is all off vertically by two pixels at the right end top and bottom - the two images were not quite contiguous when fitted together and I had to take some serious liberties.  I also had to box a blank area with "???" where the "No. 14 Westinghouse Distributing Valve" ("Westinghouse" on an AGEIR loco?) and "¾ Dirt Collector" should be (there's a Distributing Valve on the "108-ton" view,above, but sticking it blindly onto the #401 drawing might be too much of a stretch).

Further, by re-arranging where all the many components fit, ALCo was able to reduce the wheelbase and length of the 108-ton units from that of #401, while still moving the two engines further apart longitudinally to make more (and safer) passageway between them.


Just for the record, taking my data from John Scala's "Diesels of the Sunrise Trail" (page 71), here are the vital statistics on LIRR #401:1, #402:1, #402:2, and #403A and B:

    Road#   Class  Model     Builder  Serial#  Built   HP     Note

    401     AA-2   102-ton   AGEIR    66085    11/25   2x300   1
    402:1    -      80-ton   Brill    22315     1/26   2x250   2
    402:2   AA-3   109-ton   AGEIR    67330     9/28   2x300   3
    403A    BS-6    87-ton@  B-W      60185     1/28   2x330   4
       B                              60186
    Note 1 - #401 was rebult at GE's Erie, Pennsylvania, plant in Sep 27.  GE s/n 9740.  I-R carbody class B6-1.
    Note 2 - #402:1 had twin gasoline engines; LIRR never took title.
    Note 3 - #402:2 GE s/n 10465.  One-off carbody B6-4 (possibly Schenectady instead of Erie); last AGEIR "100"-tonner.
    Note 4 - #403A & B semi-permamnent coupled pair; later separated.  Mike and Ike.  Rebuilt Dec 29.


Here is the 1930 Westinghouse catalog data for #403, moved here from the Baldwin boxcabs page on 02 Jan 2002:

Although there is no copyright notice anywhere in the issue, I want it perfectly clear
that this material comes directly from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43, edited only minimally.

TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43

"Diesel and Oil Electrics from Westinghouse (1930) and Ingersoll-Rand (1936)"
64 Full-Size Pages Reprinted from the Original Catalogs - Newton K. Gregg, publisher, March 1976

Oil Electric Locomotive Data

Long Island Railroad {sic}

Two 43.5 - Ton
Oil Electric Motive Power
Units for Switching Service

(Road Numbers 403-A
and 403-B)

{Full specifications in exact Westinghouse format:}
Total Weight per unit                                               87,000 lb.
Classification of wheels                                            B {Bo}
Weight on drivers                                                   87,000 lb.
Number of driving axles                                              2
Maximum starting tractive effort (25.8% adhesion)                   22,400 lb.
Tractive effort - continuous rating                                  3,250 lb.
Maximum safe speed                                                  30 mph.
Track gauge                                                          4  ft.,  8 in.
Total wheel base                                                     9  ft.,  6  in.
Rigid wheel base                                                     9  ft.,  6  in.
Length overall (center line of coupler to center line of draw bar)  23  ft.,  4 in.
Length of cab                                                       20  ft.,  0  in.
Width of cab                                                         9  ft.,  7  in.
Height from rail to top of radiators                                14  ft., 11  in.
Diameter of drivers                                                          38  in.
Engines per cab                                                      1 - Westinghouse
Type and fuel                                                       Solid injection - oil
Cylinders                                                            6
Cycle                                                                4 stroke
Rating                                                              300 hp. at 800 rpm.
Generator                           1 - type 477, 600-volt, d-c., direct-connected to engine.
Auxiliary generator                                                 1 - type YG-9-A-2
Number and type of motors                                           2 - type 308-H
Gear ratio                                                         16:66
Control       Electro-pneumatic, single-end, multiple unit, series-parallel.  Automatic control
    of engine putput by torque governor
Battery                                                            64 volts, 272 amp.-hr.
Compressors                                                         2 - type DH-20
Radiators                                           Force cooled with automatic blower control.
Number of this type of unit furnished                               2
Year placed in service                                             1928


LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD
INFORMATION BULLETIN.

(moved here from the main LIRR #401 page 13 Feb 04)

Art Huneke, noted LIRR historian and ephemera collector sent me copies of the LONG ISLAND RAILROAD BULLETIN {note the misspelling of "Rail Road"}, Vol. IV, No. 4, of Jan. 1926, covering introduction of the #401, and Vol. V, No. 6, of July-August 1928, covering introduction of the #403.

Because these are such significant documents, I've blown a good bit of memory to bring them to you as is, including the full cover pages, and only truncating the last page of each article.  In addition, I have excerpted the photos separately, as well, so that you can see them up close without an image processor:

[They are large (75-200Kb), so I created thumbnails;
click on the thumbnails to bring up the full images.

[Equally unfortunately, most were lost, irretrievably, but, thanks to Art,
have been restored as of 25 Feb 04]

LIRR Info. Bull. #401 cover LIRR Info. Bull. #401 pg 1 LIRR Info. Bull. #401 pg 2 LIRR Info. Bull. #401 left pg 3

The detailed photos show LIRR Vice-President LeBoutellier in the cab, the guests examining the new loco, and the group at Bay Ridge (I wonder what loco is behind the coaches?): LIRR #401 Cab (cover)

 

Now, here's similar, if lesser, coverage of the arrival of #403 (Vol. V, No. 6, of July-August 1928):

LIRR Info. Bull. #403 cover

LIRR Info. Bull. #403 top pg 78

[I'm still trying to sort out the remaining missing pictures; please bear with me.]


Old LIRR Boxcab Photos - Ron Zinn remembered my interest in the LIRR #401-403 series, dug up some old prints of photos in his collection, and xerocopied them for me.  Here are the 401, as rebuilt, sitting on a turntable track at Morris Park on 10 Mar 1946 (shot from the then-new coaling tower by Harold Fagerburg) and the 403A and B units there during World War II (on 01 Oct 1942) with some of the young lovelies who filled in while the men were away in service (in an archival 01 Oct 1942 Daily News photo):

LIRR #401 at Morris Park 10 Mar 46 LIRR #403 at Morris Park 01 Oct 42
(xerocopy of H. Fagerburg {l.} 10 Mar 46 and Daily News {r.} 01 Oct 42 photos
courtesy of, and dated by, R. Zinn - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed images to bring up large (~1.5Mb) pictures]

Although the resolution of the xerocopy is good, it doesn't stand up under too much enlargement, but here is a lightened enlargement of the 401 photo, trying to show some side detail:

LIRR #401 at Morris Park - enlarged
(detail of xerocopy of H. Fagerberg 10 Mar 46 photo courtesy of R. Zinn - all rights reserved
[click on thumbnailed image to bring up large (1.7Mb) picture]

Note the traces of the Kiesel exhaust nozzles inside #38's stack!

Similarly, John Scala gave me a copy of a large-format Ewing Galloway shot (from the coaling tower) of Morris Park in May 1946, but look what's almost hidden in the lower left (SW) corner - none other than AGEIR boxcab #402:2, the only roof detail I've ever seen:

LIRR #402 at Morris Park May 46
(May 46 Ewing Galloway photo courtesy of J. Scala - all rights reserved,
dated by R. Zinn - scanned and pieced by SB,III)
[click on thumbnailed image to bring up very large (2Mb) picture]

Again, I've excerpted the boxcab detail:

LIRR #402 at Morris Park May 46 - enlarged
(detail of May 46 Ewing Galloway photo courtesy of J. Scala - all rights reserved
[click on thumbnailed image to bring up larger picture]


BOXCAB MODELING NOTES -   Moved to the Boxcabs Models page, "Notes", 24 Feb 2000.


EPILOGUE to #401

(moved here from the main LIRR #401 page 19 Oct 01)

This is to what the LIRR has sunk; it's a box and it has a cab and it's #401
    (more than that deponent sayeth not, except that it's a DE30AC,
      according to TRAINS, Dec 97, page 34):

LIRR 2nd 401

How the mighty have fallen!

Notice that no one seems quite sure what it is at which they're looking!

LIRR 2nd 401 Ass End

Ass-end View of an Assinine Assemblage

Well, we know darned sure it's no PA-1!

[Gotta get me a nice shot of a PRR PA-1 (Class AP20) in 5-stripe Tuscan red livery!]

Hey!  In all fairness to the LIRR, I saw my first DE30AC on the Oyster Bay line ca. 14:00 on 08 Dec 1998 with a bi-level trainset and, you know, it's not so bad after all.  It's not pretty, but it sure beats M1/M3 cigar tubes!  Also, the LIRR got some fairly nice horns on those babies; they may not sound as good as a Nathan K5LA AirChime but they sure beat an M1/M3 penny whistle any day!

Also, in fairness, I finally rode one in early Sep 1999 and it's smooth and quiet and accelerates like CRAAAAZY!  Actually, I've ridden on them many times since and they are really great!

Here's a drawing of the new #401:

LIRR #401 DE30AC
Image by Jack Bleiberg (renumbered* by SB,III - 28 Dec 1999)]

{Too funny!  When I renumbered it (from 400), I changed
the tiny number over the cab to "410", instead of "401",
only noticed it 19 Jan 2003 and corrected it instantly!}

* More 30AC photos (Dual Mode DM30AC #517) on LIRR Continuation Page 2.


Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik makes a fabulous 60-ton Boxcab model, with and without end doors, in Z (1:220) scale (with a flywheel, no less!); see my Z Scale Continuation Page 3.  If we could have gotten about 5 or 6 people together, he'd have made a stretched, early 100-ton version (with correct window spacing and roof detail); as it was, I had to get a custom, one-off chassis for myself for a microscopic #401 (see Even More Z on Z-scale page 5).  Now, about #402 - - - (not to mention a #403) in Z!


The AGEIR consortium built many other 100-cum-108 ton 600HP twin-engined units; one of the very first was the Great Northern #5100, put in service in Nov 1926.  #5100 combined characteristics of both one-of-a-kind #401 and later units; it had the heavy outside channel frame of #401 but the rounded ends (with doors) of #110-1, RRL #502, and #402 and such, and the odd, intermediate-style, flat horizontal-coil radiators of IR #90, C&NW #1002, and Union Carbide #11 60-tonners (but combined into single sets, rather than #401's four pairs):

GN 108T 5100 / TS20

GN 100T 5100 / TS43
[Images from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #20 (108-ton)and #43 (100-ton)

For more on the only surviving 100-ton (nominal - actually 108-ton) oil-electric boxcab, Foley Bros. #110-1, now preserved at the Feather River Rail Society's Portola museum, click here.


William E. Miller, historian of the Electric Lines in Southern Ontario, ends his e-mail messages a with a great keyboard graphic (see the bottom of my Electric Boxcabs Continuation Page; I have taken the liberty of doctoring it to make a vague representation of #401:

___  ___  ___ _________ ___  ___  ___
__||||||||||_|_|_|_______|_|_|_||||||||||__
|_\___________________=___________________/_|
||_|      |_|       =      |_|  [_] |_| |
|401          LONG  = ISLAND    | |     |
[===============================|=|=====]
_|(o)\\=//(o)     |_|_|_|  |_|(o)\\=//(o)|_
===============================================


See also the main LIRR #401 page.
More to follow, including more detailed dimensions, pictures
(especially when I find my LIRR AA-2 Class drawing),
and more links (that might even work!).



LEGACY

  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.


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