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Electromotive Survivor Boxcab
Baltimore & Ohio #50
(Alton, GM&O #1200)

[and other EMC/EMD Boxcabs] Boxcabs Page

 

I-R 60-ton Demo

A new type of locomotive!
Ingersoll-Rand 1925 Demonstrator #9681
(later CNJ #1000)
(ALCo builders photo S-1484 - source uncertain;
possibly from 1980s AAR flyer)

 

 

ALCo-GE-IR BOXCAB

Oil-Electric ("Diesel") Locomotives

(American Locomotive Company - General Electric - Ingersoll-Rand)



INDEX to Boxcabs Pages:

note-rt.gif   The primary Boxcabs Index has been moved to a separate page,
together with links and credits.

Boxcab Help - A service for boxcab afficionados,
posting reasonable questions (at my sole discretion).

There are now more than seventy-five (75) BOXCAB pages;
see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.

[A new "bugaboo" has reared its ugly head - complexity of organization -
see COMPLEXITY on my main index page.]

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Here is a photo of B&O #50 which appears to be either a builders picture or a B&O photo of their new baby (by permission of the San Diego Railroad Museum/Pacific Southwest Railway Museum):

B&O #50
(courtesy of the San Diego Railroad Museum/Pacific Southwest Railway Museum -
all rights reserved)


PAGE INDEX:

Unindexed; please scroll away.

There will now be separate pages for each surviving boxcab.

On the Survivor Boxcabs page:

SURVIVOR BOXCAB LOCATIONS MAP.

ROSTER OF SURVIVING ALCo-GE-IR BOXCABS.

On this B&O #50 page:

B&O #50 Info. (follows).

B&O #50 Notes.

Other EMC/EMD Boxcabs

On the EMC/EMD Boxcabs page):

Other EMC/EMD Boxcabs
    (moved from this B&O #50 page 17 Dec 02)

The AT&SF Twins (1935 #1 and #1A)

E6 Boxcabs!
    (moved from this B&O #50 page 17 Dec 02)


Back on 03 Jul 82 [before I became a boxcab fan(atic)], I was out at the National Museum of Transport (as it was called then) and got this photo of #50 out in the open:

It is now the Museum of Transportation.


BEEN THERE - DONE THAT!  01 Jul 00 - just back from Boxcab Trips 2a and 2b and have now visited and documented all surviving U.S. boxcabs!  Montréal, anyone?  Eheu!  Been there and done that, again (after far too many years), on 25 Jun 2002.

I was also out at MoT on 17 Jun 2004 and even more photos will follow.

Other surviving gas/oil-electric/diesel boxcabs (including +, @, and *, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Other Boxcabs continuation page.

Other surviving electric boxcabs (including e, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Electric Boxcabs page.

Other surviving odd boxcabs are noted on the Odd Boxcabs continuation page.


*.  ___-ton, 1,800-hp Baltimore & Ohio #50.
(Alton, GM&O #1200

Builder's Plate Data

{to follow}

B&O Class DP-1 #50 at Museum of Transportation,

Please note that MoT has a new URL http://www.thetrainmuseum.org/; you may wish to bookmark it.

B&O #50 is the first U. S. passenger boxcab, B&O Class AA (or DP-1), an August 1935 EMC predecessor of an EMD FP unit {NOT an ALCo-GE-IR unit - see Boxcabs continuation page 2}.

"First U. S." unit because Canadian Locomotve Company built a big, double unit, #9000, to Baldwin-Westinghouse designs, for the Canadian National Railway in 1929 (and it ran well into the 1940s).

B&O #1 (#195, #8000), also at the Museum of Transportion, was the third production boxcab (second 60-ton unit).


EMC B&O #50 - James Mischke of Panther Hollow Press e-mailed me on 26 Dec 97 as follows (slightly edited):

Saw your ALCo-GE-IR boxcab web page and have information to add.  B&O #50 at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation is not an ALCo-GE-IR boxcab, it is an Electro-Motive Corp. {EMC preceded EMD} model AA {1,800-hp Class DP-1} passenger locomotive.  It was a very historic diesel locomotive, the first passenger road locomotive not articulated to its train.  Placed in Royal Blue service {Jersey City - Washington DC.} on 8/22/35, it was {given a shovelnose and} transferred to Abraham Lincoln service (Chicago - St. Louis) on B&O subsidiary Alton in 4/36.  Following the B&O-Alton breakup, Alton bought it in 5/43.  Following WWII, it {was restored to its pure boxcab appearance and} became GM&O #1200 and served in local freight service and on the Joliet commuter train.  Retired in 1956, {it was} donated by the scrapper to St. Louis in late 1958.  It probably deserves its own web page {I couldn't agree more - here it is - SB,III - also, see Boxcabs Continuation page 2 about still other EMD boxcabs}.

B&O #1, also at the Museum of Transportion, the second 60-ton unit and third production boxcab built, is an ALCo-GE-IR loco {NOT an EMC/EMD unit - see the #1 Survivor Boxcab Page}.

FYI, the B&O has an Historical Society.

B&O #50 NOTES:

Here is #50 taken by Arnold Hans Morscher in 1995 at the St. Louis museum (brought to my attention by the ever-helpful Mark Laundry - thanks, Mark!):

B&O #50 EMC at St. Louis Museum
(photo from A. H. Morscher's site)
[Click on thumbnailed photo for larger image]

I'm glad she's still with us but was sad to see her so deteriorated from when I last saw her in St. Louis some 10 years ago or so before.  An engine so historic deserves to be indoors (at the B&O museum!).  WELL!  Today (16 Sep 99) came an e-mail about #50; they "completely repainted this loco last year"!

Here, through the great courtesy of the Denver Public Library, from their Western History/Genealogy Photograph Collection, is an 11 Aug 1939 Otto C. Perry photograph of B&O #50 as the Abraham Lincoln shovelnose; you can almost hear that engine pulsing:

B&O/Alton 50 Abe Lincoln
(Otto Perry photo courtesy of the Denver Public Library, Western History Collection,
call number 00002549, from the Otto C. Perry Collection;
Reproduced here by specific written permission of the Denver Public Library,
Western History Collection - all rights reserved to the Denver Public Library.)

On 04 Jan 03, I had promised more on the Abraham Lincoln; here we go:

B&O #50 Tr #3
Baltimore & Ohio train, engine number 50, engine type EMC 1800HP B-B
Call Number OP-2595, from the Otto C. Perry Collection)
Train #3, The Abraham Lincoln; 9 cars. Photographed: leaving Chicago, Ill., July 25, 1940.

B&O #50 Tr #2 1
Baltimore & Ohio train, engine number 50, engine type EMC 1800HP B-B
Call Number OP-2594, from the Otto C. Perry Collection)
Train #2, The Abraham Lincoln. Photographed: Chicago, Ill., July 25, 1940.

B&O #50 Tr #2 2
(Otto Perry photo courtesy of the Denver Public Library, Western History Collection)
Baltimore & Ohio train, engine number 50, engine type EMC 1800HP B-B
Call Number OP-2596, from the Otto C. Perry Collection)
Train #2, The Abraham Lincoln; 9 cars. Photographed: leaving St. Louis, Mo., August 16, 1940.

The MoT came through nobly for us; here are three original GE builder's photos from the MoT's files (stating that GE built the loco for Electro-Motive Corp.) and a photo of the engineer's position in the operating compartment taken more recently at the MoT (that's the Little Joe through the window):

GE photo of EMC B&O #50 MoT #1 End GE photo of EMC B&O #50 MoT Engine

GE photo of EMC B&O #50 MoT Engineer GE photo of EMC B&O #50 MoT Engineer's Position
(photos courtesy of the Museum of Transportation Library, St. Louis - all rights reserved)
[thumbnailed images - click on pictures for larger images]

My thanks to the MoT for this courtesy.

To go along with such detail, I copied the San Diego Railroad Museum/Pacific Southwest Railway Museum) photo above, cropped it to a bare minimum and artificially lightened it to the point where the roof detail disappears, in order to show the undercarriage better:

B&O #50 lightened
(cropped and lightened copy of photo courtesy of the San Diego Railroad Museum/Pacific Southwest Railway Museum -
all rights reserved)

Using the front view as a reference and assuming the #50 is the same width as the #1 (9' 6½" - possibly inaccurate), I calculate from the relative height that the #50 carbody is 51' 1½" long, end to end.

Now here's a big surprise; I found (13 Oct 07) a postcard I'd long since lost!  It shows #50 as she was originally restored at the NMT BUT out in front of the EMD plant in McCook, Illinois, having been moved from the NMT to celebrate the 50th anniversary of EMC/EMD on 09 Sep 1972:

B&O #50 at EMD 1972
(postcard of B&O #50 at EMD McCook, Ill., 09 Sep 1972
from the collection of S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed picture for larger image]

The picture is by Paul L. Schumann on an Audio Visual Designs card.

EMD 50th Logo - 1972
[EMD 50th Anniversary Logo from back of card]

Here's a similar picture taken up closer:

B&O #50 at EMD 1972
(unprovenanced picture of B&O #50 at EMD McCook, Ill., ca. 09 Sep 1972
from the collection of S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

[Unfortunately, I do not recall from whence I got this image; I'll happily make amends if the appropriate party reminds me.]


I had written elsewhere "Don't overlook that second-earliest production passenger diesel of all time" but the note belongs here.  To continue, "(I'm kidding in a way, since the first was the 100-ton ALCo-GE-IR Erie oil-electric #22 used by IR in the first road passenger test in 1927 noted on the main BOXCABS page and detailed on the I-R Boxcabs page)".  She still exists; I refer to B&O #50, mentioned by Mischke, above, at the Museum of Transportation (formerly called National Museum of Transport, at Barrett Station Road, St. Louis, Missouri 63122, 314-965-7998).  She was the first passenger boxcab to stay in that service, an EMC predecessor of an FP unit {NOT an ALCo-GE-IR unit}, and went though several incarnations.  She's in good company, though; the Museum also has a very early 60-ton, 300HP boxcab, B&O Class DS-1-A #1 (later B&O #195/#8000), which, as noted above, IS an ALCo-GE-IR unit (prejudiced, ain't I?)!


Much as I greatly appreciate the TLC given #50 by the St. Louis folks, this B&O locomotive and its sister, #1, REALLY belong at the B&O Museum in Baltimore!



Other EMC/EMD Boxcabs

Summary material only (not about survivors) - some material moved from Boxcabs Continuation page 2 on 08 Jul 2002
and moved again to Other EMC/EMD Boxcabs on 17 Dec 02, q.v.

An early EMD boxcab designed for freight operation was their Model 60; this boxcab is very close in shape and appearance to the ALCos.  The locomotive is a 400hp boxcab ca. 1930-31 and was equipped with a Winton 148 gasoline engine.  Two units, #463 and #464, went to the Lehigh Valley in 1930 and a third, #465, to the Steelton & Highspire Railroad {that's the steel mill immediately south of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, as their #30 - SBIII} in 1931.  This info. supplied by my Web ami à Québec.

EMD Mod. 60 #463

See also Boxcabs page 6 - More Miscellaneous Boxcabs and EMD pages.

EMC built two other 1,800-hp passenger boxcabs in 1935, their demonstrators #511 and #512 were virtually identical to #50 but were scrapped in 1938*.  Then they built nine boxy-cab units for SF and CB&Q in 1935-36 (see Pinkepank/Marre).

* - When #511 and #512 were scrapped, their trucks were used for NW4 builder's numbers 823 and 834, MP #4102 and #4103, that same year.

[Thanks to Mark Laundry for this information.]

St. Louis Car Co. and EMC also teamed up to build one or more 800HP straight boxcab locos for the Rock Island:

I seem to have overlooked the appearance in TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #20 of AT&SF #1a and #1b:

StLCC/EMC SF 512/511
(Image from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #20)

EMC built these boxcabs for the SF in 1935; they originally had the beetle brows (semi-streamlined radiator housings) over the cabs,as pictured above, and were later rebuilt in 1938 from B-B to rather-weird 1-A-A - 1-A-A locos, having a leading idler wheelset added to the front end of each front truck.  #1A was renumbered to #1 abd #1B to #10.  To further confuse things, both units were then modified with semi-turret cabs and by fitting that odd extra axle to the rear trucks, as well, and then, in a fiendish move clearly intended to totally demoralize railfans, #1B-cum-#10 was redesignated a booster unit and renumbered to 2nd #1A!  As if THAT weren't bad enough, in 1948 #1B-cum-#10-cum-#1A was again rebuilt, with a mild shovelnose and Blomberg trucks, and renumbered to #2611!  Finally, in 1953, both units were rebuilt into E8Bs!  All this is from Marre (1995) and he allows that the most significant result of all this "was the Accounting Department record"; I couldn't agree more.!

There is a fantastic history and photo gallery of "The Twins", and a superb HO model of one of them, by Werner Schneider, at ATSF_Class_1.

See also a separate EMC/EMD Boxcabs page on which I have reproduced much of Werner's history and illustrations, with his kind permission.

EMC made four other units in this series but they were the Burlington's 600HP (later 900HP) Budd-bodied stainless steel streamlined Zephyrs, not by any stretch boxcabs.

E6 Boxcabs

Summary material only (not about survivors) - some material moved to E6 Boxcabs on 17 Dec 02, q.v.

Even less well-known but far wilder are the two 1,000hp E6 boxcabs (yes, Virginia, 1,000hp E6 boxcabs!), #751 and 752, built by EMC in 1940 for the Rock Island; they were basically an E6b but with only one prime mover and a boxcab control stand and baggage area where the second engine would have otherwise been installed.


There are seven (7) ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcab units surviving and four (4) B-W (or B-W-style) units, one EMC unit, plus two (2) "home-grown" Anglo-Canadian and English units and two (2) electric boxcab survivors, for a total of sixteen(16) known North American and British survivors.

Roster of surviving ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcabs on Survivor Boxcabs page.

Other surviving electric boxcabs (including e, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Electric Boxcabs page.

Other surviving odd boxcabs are noted on the Odd Boxcabs continuation page.



LEGACY

  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.


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