S. Berliner, III's sbiii.com CNR #77 Survivor Boxcab Page keywords = boxcab CN Canadian Canadien National 77 Works Delson St. Constant Museum Musée Ferroviare oil electric diesel engine locomotive rail road way switch

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CLC (Baldwin-Westinghouse)
CNR #77 Survivor
Boxcabs Page

Boxcab Help - A service for boxcab afficionados,
posting reasonable questions (at my sole discretion).

There are now more than seventy-five (75) BOXCAB pages;
see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.

[A new "bugaboo" has reared its ugly head - complexity of organization -
see COMPLEXITY on my main index page.]

CLC (Baldwin-Westinghouse)
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Oil-Electric ("Diesel") Locomotive

(Canadian Locomotive Company)


CN  #7700
(Photo from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43)   new.gif (restored 15 Aug 2004)




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One of three (3) surviving boxcabs at the Canadian Railway Museum/Musée Ferroviare Canadien in St. Constant/Delson, just south of Montréal, Québec.

(The other two are the NCC {H&W} CP #7000 and the 1914 GE electric boxcab #6711.)


On the Survivor Boxcabs Continuation Page:

NOTES (by item number per listing) - specific notes about each survivor.

The page of NOTES was split off from the Survivors Roster page and the engine listings renumbered on 10 Sep 99.

The rest of this page is unindexed; scroll away.

C.  CLC {BW} CNR #77 - [Ref.]

CNR #77 at MFC
(photo and information from Musée Ferroviare Canadien site - all rights reserved.).

#77 at the Canadian Railway Museum/Musée Ferroviare Canadien (right side).

Builder's Plate Data

{to follow}

70-ton, 400-hp Canadian National Railway Class Q-1-a #77 at the Musée Ferroviare Canadien (Canadian Railway Museum) at Delson/St. Constant, Québec, built in 1929 and placed in service in 1930.

Per Don Ross:  "7700, Class Q-1-a, was built by Canadian Locomotive-Westinghouse in December 1929, #1861.  It was renumbered 77 in 1950 and later reclassified LS-4a. It was rebuilt in 1953 and then sold to Canada Starch Co as 77 in 1962."

The 1929 CNR #77 noted on the Survivors map at "C" [I've changed the symbol!] appears to be a variant of the Baldwin-Westinghouse Visibility Cab unit but without end platforms and with a notch in the body side to allow access to the cab, thus making it a semi-boxcab or a hood unit with an end cab and a blob on the right front (if the cab is at the rear):

It was built as #7700.

Per the Museum's site, CN #77, a diesel switcher built by Canadian Locomotive Company in 1929, "is the oldest surviving Canadian National diesel locomotive" and "is based on the contemporary Westinghouse electric locomotive end-cab design of the period".  "The unit has been re-engined but retains its original electrical equipment; it is a good example of the early experimental diesel era".

Here are excellent photographs of #7700 as built (right side, left side, front, and rear), from the collection of the Canada Science and Technology Museum at CN Images of Canada Gallery > Railways > Historic CN 1919-1963 > Locomotives and Equipment; they are the property of the Museum and I have received specific, written permission to reproduce them here (for which I am exceedingly grateful):   rev.gif (15 Aug 04)

[The first two are two different prints of the same shot]

CNR #7700 RS

CNR #7700 RS

CNR #7700 LS

CNR #7700 Front

CNR #7700 Rear
(photos property of, and reproduced here by special written permission of,
the Canada Science and Technology Museum - all rights reserved to the Museum.
These images may NOT be copied or reproduced without specific, prior, written permission of CSTM.)

CSTM caption:  "CNR No. 7700, the first diesel-electric switcher in Canada,
Montréal, Québec, Canada, 1930, Photographer: unknown,
Subject: Diesel locomotives / Canadian Locomotive Company,
Image No.: CN000522, CSTMC/CN Collection".

[balance: CN001442, CN001443, CN001444, and CN001445 - captions to follow]

Note that this unit is a later version of the classic Baldwin-Westinghouse
"Visibility Cab" design, differing primarily in having a side door,
recessed back to the "shoulder" (window area).

Westinghouse cross-sectional drawings show the configuration of typical Visibility Cab units:

West. Vis. Cab end

West. Vis. Cab top

West. Vis. Cab side
(Drawings from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43   new.gif (restored 15 Aug 04)

This is an Aug 1952 left side shot from Don Ross's Railspot:

CNR #77 20 Aug 52
(photo from the Don Ross Collection - all rights reserved.
Thumbnail image - click on picture for larger image.)
.   new.gif (restored 15 Aug 04)

There are seven (7) ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcab units surviving and four (4) B-W (or B-W-style) units, one EMC unit, plus two (2) "home-grown" Anglo-Canadian and English units and two (2) electric boxcab survivors, for a total of sixteen(16) known North American and British survivors.

Notes on surviving ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcabs on Survivor Boxcabs Notes page.

Other surviving gas/oil-electric/diesel boxcabs (including +, @, and *, on map) are noted on the Other Boxcabs continuation page.

Other surviving electric (and any other odd) boxcabs (including e and ?, on map) are noted on the Odd Boxcabs continuation page.

NOTES moved to Survivor Boxcabs Continuation Page.




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There are now more than seventy-five (75) BOXCAB pages;
see the full INDEX, now on a separate page.


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