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S. Berliner, III
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Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher
- The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective
31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything. Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand. See my
sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.
a "vanity" URL (q.v.) that did not require the tilde (~), as was true of ALL of my old pages.}
S. Berliner, III's
sbiii.com
Long Island Motor Parkway Page
A Motor Parkway Panel has been convened to keep the LIMP alive in situ and in minds and museums.
There is also a lot of automotive material on my ORDNANCE and HISTORY pages.
Also, if you like automotive history, see the links on the Automotive page.
RoW = Right-of-Way.
Well, look at that last photo, above! I drove north and south past this spot on 110 almost twice daily (and sometimes much more than just twice) for some ten years or more and never realized it was the LIMP RoW, my zeal blinding me to the fact that the LILCO (now LIPA) power lines diverged from the LIMP RoW back at Bethpage State Park! The ridge I so carefully (and painfully) followed from the southeast end of OBVR is NOT the LIMP!!! I realized most graphically how far off I was when Bob Miller showed a slide of a private one-lane bridge under the LIMP which stood (or still stands) inside the sandpits, which are just north of Bethpage-Spagnoli Road; the ridge is SOUTH of the road! Sitting at that red light (you can see it), I saw only the mound ahead of me on the west side of 110 and thought, "Oh, no; that's the RoW!" It's not; see the steel barrier to the left (north), just to the right (south) of the big bank building? That's it! More on this stretch, just west of the Duryea Road bridge site, in my next adventure.
That didn't quite happen; instead, on a fluke, I jumped past the 110 and Maxess abutment areas to Wheatley Heights and Half Hollow Hills, as follows:
WHEATLEY HEIGHTS/HALF HOLLOW HILLS AREA
The Wheatley Heights/Half Hollow Hills area, east of PinelawnRoad/Wellwood Avenue* and north of Colonial
Springs Road and south of the LIE (Long Island Expressway - I495) is of great personal interest to me; I had never bothered to really investigate what I
thought was barren, dead-flat scrubland while I worked only a mile-and-a-half to the west for 17 years. The last time I really looked around in that area was
ca. 1976 and it was all wilderness and farms; now it's all built up with up-scale homes. Well, was I ever surprised when I detoured from Farmingdale on my way NE to
Northport ca. 16 Jul 2000, followed the LILCO/LIPA high-tension pole line along the S side of CSR to where it cuts NE across CSR about a quarter-mile east of Wellwood, and
turned north on Northcote Road!
* - The Huntington/Babylon town line, running W-E, separates Wheatley Heights on the S from Half Hollow Hills on the N; CSR demarcates the change from Pinelawn Road (N) to Wellwood Avenue (S).
There was the LIMP@, replete with pavement and posts, stretching away ENE UPHILL as far as I could see! The intervening week was all torrential downpours so, on 31 Jul 00, under darkly lowering skies, I took my trusty digital there and here is what I saw:
First, to my left (W), about a block north of CSR, was the obvious crossing of the RoW (actually, this time, I crossed the road and climbed the embankment and here's the view looking WSW back towards Pinelawn/Wellwood), BUT, to my right (E), across a thick hedge, is that astonishing vista!
Here's an over-pixelled enlargement of that "blob", which was actually a full-size van (so those "posts' were obviously NOT such - FAR too big!). Next, I climbed up on the car sill to get a better view over the hedge; you can see the guard/ticket shack in the lower right:
That van and another vehicle were running up and down the road and then vanished past the shack to the near right (S), so I decided to find how they got there. I retraced my way S on Northcote, hung a left (E) on CSR, and turned in left (N) through the open gate of the Usdan Center for the Creative and Performing Arts (do NOT emulate my example!), driving N to the shack and the RoW, where I took a photo looking from the gate at the foot of the hill, uphill to the ENE. Driving up the hill, we see, finally and for sure, that the "posts" are, in fact, telephone poles with visibility bands around them.:
@ - There's only one problem here! This is NOT the LIMP! As unmistakeable as it may seem; it's wrong.
From the end of the Usdan stretch, the RoW appears (on my 1990 Suffolk Hagstrom's) to run as the south boundary of the western half of the small park south of Farmington and west of Bagatelle and then the northwesterly curve forming the southern boundary of the eastern half of that park. Then it appears that it should run along the east side of Farmington, crossing Bagatelle opposite and between Wilmington and Threepence Drives and running to the east of Dix Woods Drive, through the public school grounds and across the LIE, probably running between Lone Hill Place and Broad Oak Lane (again facing dead ends), through the SW corner of Fox Lane, across Melissa Court, and so to Half Hollow Road and the so-called Vanderbilt Parkway.
Back to the real world. Just S of the LIE, between Threepence ("Thruppence") and Wilmington Drives (as I recall), the RoW crosses Bagatelle, here viewed WSW and ENE:
Historical marker in front of Half Hollow Hills Community Library
(55 Vanderbilt Parkway, Dix Hills, north side,
opposite Half Hollow Hills School)
I was all wet about some of this area (as noted @, and apparently still may be). It did, however, go through a welter of small roads until it came to the intersections of Colonial Springs Road, Bagatelle Road and the Long Island Expressway which is about where the RoW hit Half Hollow Road, where the13-mile extant stretch of LIMP RoW starts, as noted above.
More about this area appears (as of 08 Apr 2002) on the WHEATLEY HEIGHTS/HALF HOLLOW HILLS AREA - revisited section of the Suffolk County page and (as of 28/29 Jan 2003) on LIMP page A (29 Jan 2003).
Motor Parkway Panel member Steve Anderson was quoted in a NEWSDAY article by Sidney C. Shaer, "Highway Hopes That Faded", on page A20 (Nassau edition) of the Friday, 05 Nov 1999, issue, in the "Long Island - Our Future" series, "Predictions from the past that haven't come true ... yet".
Motor Parkway Panel convenor Sam Berliner contributed the cover story on the LIMP (especially as it traversed the narrow central portion of the Town of Oyster Bay - through Central Park/Bethpage) for the Winter 2000 issue FREEHOLDER, "The History Magazine of the Town of Oyster Bay", the publication of the Oyster Bay Historical Society, of which he was a member.
A quadruple-threat site is John Woodson's Stanley Steamers site; all about Stanley, Doble, White, and other steamcars, steam engines, steam locomotives, and steamboats - what more could one given to the vapors want? Well, one could want a picture of the 1906 Stanley Steamer Vanderbilt Cup racer; yup, it's there (by C. Benson) - the black, coffin-nosed, beauty with driver and mechanic aboard.
There is no map (yet) on Mike Natale's fascinating " The Toll Road Map Master List" site.
The index on this site's main page and these many LIMP pages have been heavily truncated to save page space; see the
LIMP Index.
A Motor Parkway Panel had been convened to keep the LIMP alive in situ, in minds, and in museums; it has been disbanded and all activities thereof have been assumed by the Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Society.
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