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note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.


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LONG ISLAND
Continuation Page 1

note-rt - I moved from Long Island to Massachusetts in July 2010
and these pages may not be kept current.


Page Index

On the main Long Island page:
Long Island Studies Institute.
Walt Whitman.

On this Long Island Continuation Page 0:

Long Island (and related) Links
Long Island's Original Inhabitants (Native Americans/Indians).
    (Moved from the main LI page on 17 Mar 2004)
Culluloo Telawana (last of the Rockaway Indians).
    (Moved from the main LI page on 17 Mar 2004)
Inisfada - St. Ignatius Retreat House.
    (Moved from LI continuation page 1 on 17 Mar 2004)
Gould Gatehouse.
Bella Vista Auto Enthusiasts Hangout.
Glen Head.
Nassau Brick Works.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 1:

1906 Hyde Map of Long Island
Long Island's Original East End.
Rock Hall.
Lord's Woods.
Long Island Questions.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 2:

Suydam Homestead (Suydam House and Barn Museum) (moved here 29 Apr 02).
Oyster Bay - village, town, ship, station (moved here 29 Apr 02).
Sea Cliff (moved here 29 Apr 02).
Great Paths - Indian Trails to Highways

On the Long Island Continuation Page 3:

Long Island Automotive Manufacturing (moved to page 3 on 04 Jun 03)


This page was separated out from my main Long Island page
and neither is restricted to just the history of Long Island.


[See the disclaimer on the History page and AUTHORITY on my Home Page.]


LONG ISLAND

A great place to live, to explore
(and to go broke)!

[It's upscale and expensive and getting more so every day.
What will happen to all those affluent middlemen and .com-ers
and their flashy showpiece homes when the bubble breaks?]

DIRECTIONAL NOTE: - Long Island actually aligns west-southwest by east-northeast but locals use "north" to mean compass north-northwest, etc.

Long Island, called Paumanok by the local Algonkian Native Americans (13 "tribes" of them), is shaped like a whale running east to west, with the twin forks as the tail flukes facing east towards England, which is why it was nicknamed the Sunrise Homeland by developers between the wars:

LI Outline Map
(Map by and © 2000 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Manhattan is to the far left (west) across the East River (actually only a tidal estuary) and New York City, which encompasses Manhattan, Staten Island, and the Bronx, also includes Brooklyn [the lower left (southwest) corner of Long Island and Queens [the upper left (northwest) corner of the Island.  Connecticut is to the top (north) across Long Island Sound, with Rhode Island to its east, diagonally upper-right (northwest).  Peconic Bay is between the forks and the Atlantic Ocean is at the bottom (south), beyond the Great South Bay, enclosed by the long string of barrier beaches - Coney Island at the far left (west), Rockaway Beach, Atlantic Beach, Long Beach Jones Beach, Fire Island, the Hamptons, and finally Montauk Point itself at the far right (east).  The north fork ends at Orient Point, with Plum Island just offshore and Gardiners Island between the points

Speaking of Manhattan, directly across the East River is Long Island City, where the Steinway piano factory on Queens Plaza was originally the home and factory of the American Mercedes (ca. 1914), as well as of the American Rolls-Royce for a short while thereafter.


Long Island Links

    Parks & Trails New York
(formerly New York Parks & Conservation Association),

    Long Island Greenbelt Trail Conference.

An internal link to an artefact of the original Curtiss Wind Tunnel possibly still surviving on LI.

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Native Americans
("Indians")
of Long Island

(Moved from the main LI page on 17 Mar 2004)

Long Island was populated by thirteen (13) tribes (or family groups) when the first Euros barged in.  They were the Canarsee, Rockaway, Merrick, Marsapeague, Secatogue, and Unkechaug (on the South Shore), the Matinecock, Nesaquake, Setalcott, and Corchaug (on the North Shore), and the Shinnecock, Manhasset, and Montauks (out on the East End).

Through intermarriage, there's not much left of the aboriginals, but several "tribes" stake out their claims on reservations (Poospatuck, Shinnecock) and in other groupings (such as the Montauketts).  A good site to start with for more on Long Island's Native Americans/Indians is on the Long Island Genealogy site, and another is NEWSDAY's Our Story.


CULLULOO TELAWANA

(Moved from the main LI page on 17 Mar 2004)

Culluloo Telawana

 :

Native American Honored

In Woodsburgh (between Woodmere and Hewlett), Long Island,
is a granite monument (a small obelisk on a plinth)
to an old native Sachem,

Culluloo Telawana,
which I used to visit as a teen.
I went there on 21 Mar 1998 and
transcribed the inscription:

 

HERE LIVED AND DIED

CULLULOO TELAWANA

ca. 1818
THE LAST OF THE ROCKAWAY
IROQUOIS INDIANS,
WHO WAS PERSONALLY
KNOWN TO ME
IN MY BOYHOOD
I OWNING THE LAND HAVE
ERECTED THIS MONUMENT
TO HONOR HIS TRIBE.
-----*-----
ABRAHAM HEWLETT
1888

CULLULOO

[Note the spelling on the obelisk; the name has been alternatively spelled (even by me) "Cullulloo Telawanna" and other ways.]

In Robert Arbib's evocative book, "The Lord's Woods", noted on my Long Island Continuation Page 1, in the section of that name, this story, monument, and inscription are presented (I'd completely forgotten) and Arbib relates that Cullulloo's "little house was in Woodmere, where Linden Street now crosses Broadway, the old footpath" {presumably in the Lord's Woods} and Arbib goes on to say "It is the only memorial to a 7,000 year history to be found anywhere".  How sad!

On 04 Nov 2000, I took my trusty digital camera down to Woodsburgh and found my way inerrantly (not bad after many years and not having that map with me) and shot the obelisk under lowering skies (actually, the pictures which follow are substitutes shot with a cell phone on 26 Aug 2007 to replace the 2000 pix lost):

Cululloo2 Cululloo1
(26 Aug 2007 pictures by and © 2007 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)

I also shot photos of a regular jet and a jumbo jet low over the obelisk just to the west, over Cedarhurst, heading in to JFK on a flight path appropriately dubbed Cedarhurst Alley (there was a book by that name); I took what I could get on 26 Aug 2007:

Cedarhurst Alley Jet/Jumbo
(Picture 26 Aug 07 by and © 2007 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)

Cedarhurst Alley is an area of upscale homes beseiged by noise and kerosene from planes roaring in overhead all day and night on 2 minute headings (some times two nearly abreast for two parallel runways)!


Inisfada - St. Ignatius Retreat House

(Moved from the LI continuation page 1 on 17 Mar 2004)

One of the many surviving "Gold Coast" mansions is that of Nicholas and Genevieve Garvan Brady in Manhasset, Inisfada, meaning "Long Island" in Gaelic.  Here are some views at poor sun angles of the front of the house from the north, looking at the center left, the center, and the right end (the left end was totally obscured by trees and shrubbery), and of the serenely beautiful meditation maze:

Inisfada-2/1/3/4
(Pictures Oct 01 by and © 2001 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]
{to be reshot at better sun angles}

Unlike so many other surviving mansions, which are put to commercial or entertainment uses, Inisfada (built ca. 1916-20) was given to the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) by Mrs. Brady in 1937 and now serves as the St. Ignatius Retreat House.  It remains largely as it was at that time and is a wonderful and inspirational venue; a place of peace and beauty.  The house and grounds are open to the public and I heartily recommend a visit (and I personally ask that you not forget the donation box in the lobby before you leave).  It is a nice place to get a mass card for the sick or bereaved and has a lovely gift shop, where you can purchase an inexpensive, well-illustrated brochure on the full history of the house.


Gould Gatehouse - another architectural gem of Long Island history is the gatehouse to the Gould estate in Dix Hills (not the Gold Coast one in Sands Point); it is at 495 Wolf Hill Road and the hunting lodge is still there as well (but completely invisible from the street), about ¾ of a mile away on the south side of Caledonia Road, west of Dix Hills Road [just look for the electrified split rail fence (to keep the horses in the paddock)].  The gatehouse is for sale again at only $1,275,000 (I think I'll pass) and John Chiarella was kind enough to offer these exterior and interior shots of the gatehouse (received 05 Jan 2006):

GouldGateHouseFront GouldGateHouseFront2
(Jan 2006 pictures courtesy of J. Chiarella - all rights reserved)
L - Right Front | R - Front
[Because the front of the gatehouse was heavily shaded,
these two pictures have been artificially lightened.]

GouldGateHouseLivingRm GouldGateHouseDiningRm
L - Living Room | R - Dining Room

GouldGateHouseDen GouldGateHouseBedrm
L - Den | R - Bedroom

GouldGateHouseKitchen GouldGateHouseBackYard
(Jan 2006 pictures courtesy of J. Chiarella - all rights reserved)
L - Kitchen | R - Back Yard

Thanks, John!


Bella Vista

(moved from LI page 2 on 10 Jan 2006 because of space limitations)

Raimund Corssen is (or was) the name of the BMW dealer in Oyster Bay (I finally remembered that and verified it) but what was the name of the old Grand Prix race car driver who became a restaurateur on Route 25A in Centerport just south of the harbor?  His place, which I thought was the Mill Pond Inn (now the Mill Pond House), at 437 East Main Street (they say no) or next door to the east in the Bella Vista (later the Casa del Mare, etc., etc.*), 441 East Main Street (where they know nothing about it, nor does the Greenlawn-Centerport Historical Society).  As I recall rather vividly, the restaurant was the one to the west and it was owned ca. 1960-70 by a race-car driver, Belgian I believe, who had a Bugatti and one or more other of his old cars hung upside-down above the bar, which was to the left (west) as one walked in (north) from 25A.

(The more I think about it, the more certain I am that it was the Bella Vista,
by name, and the Mill Pond Inn by the look and location of it!
That's really useful!  For locals, the Thatched Cottage is at 445.)

Here's where it actually was/is:

BellaVistaMap
(Map by and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Stony Hollow Road is almost certainly the "twisty back road" referred to below; it very much still is just that, although no longer so "empty"!

Now (23 Sep 02) to further clarify AND muddy the waters, a gentleman from East Hampton writes as follows (slightly edited):

"Back in the 1960's an entire generation of college students would use the Bella Vista for drinks and dating.  The owner was a man named John Buzzeta.  - - - The building was NOT the Mill Pond Inn.  The Mill Pond Inn was next door to the west.

There were never any automobiles hanging from the ceiling of the bar, but the ceiling was festooned with license plates from all over the world.  Wall hangings were photographs and general automobile memorabilia.

The Bella Vista building had been so modified, renovated {etc.} as to make the original structure unrecognizable.several years ago.  The original was a hip roofed building with a lovely second floor porch which looked out over the mill pond.

I remember that various sports car clubs and organizations would design their rally competitions to end at what we all called the 'BV'.  On weekend afternoons the parking lot was packed with foreign cars of every description.

I was told that the building many years previous had belonged to the Mr. Vanderbilt whose mansion Eagles Nest became the Vanderbilt Museum in Centerport.  It was rumored that it was some sort of gate house, because Vanderbilt owned all the property between the Bella Vista and the estate.  I have no idea if this story is true."

On 11 Dec 05, I heard from the West Coast:

"wanted to elaborate on the Bella Vista.  The Bella Vista was indeed owned by John Buzzetta in the early sixties and was 'festooned' with automobilia.

The reason for this was that in those days, the restaurant (formerly a Whitney summer home) lay at the terminus of a rather empty and twisty back road.  Because of this, local sports car clubs would hold rallies on Sunday afternoons that would finish at the restaurant just in time for a few martinis and a nice dinner.

This activity got John's son Joe interested in sports cars and Joe became a quite accomplished racing driver, usually competing in Porsches.  On his time off he would tend bar at the Bella Vista."

Thanks.  Belgian, eh?  Mill Pond Inn, eh?  So much for what I remember!

However, I definitely remember an old Bugatti and one or more other racers hanging upside down from the ceiling; the more I think about that detail, the more certain I am of it.

Well, more old Bella Vista habituées have checked in; Tom Householder, now out in Ohio (where he keeps track of the 200 old Doretti sports cars still known to exist (of the less than 300 built) and involved with vintage Triumphs, advised 09 Jan 2006:  "The Long Island Sports car club hung out there a lot and started a lot of their rally's there."  He verifies the location and will be sending an old article about the place.

The old Bella Vista's mantle as a hangout for car buffs has been largely assumed by The Shack, just to the east at 1 Stony Hollow Road (the southeast corner of 25A and Stony Hollow).

* - As of Jul 2007 (at least), the Bella Vista-cum-Casa del Mare-cum-Silver Swan at 441 East Main Street had become the Viva Juan but on 22 Aug 2007 Ken Harris tells me that it is now the ¡Ay Caramba! Restaurant [gotta keep movin' to keep current]!  Can't argue with this:

¡AyCaramba!
(¡Ay Caramba! Restaurant - Aug 2007)
[picture from ¡Ay Caramba! site]


Glen Head

I lived in a house in the hamlet of Glen Head (in the Town of Oyster Bay) on a City of Glen Cove street with property in both jurisdictions; that made for all sorts of fun.  We had a realtor there with the clever name of Sherlock Homes and they sent me this advertising postcard, itself a reproduction of an older postcard of the Glen Head station on the Oyster Bay Branch of the Long Island Rail Road:

GlenHeadStation
(Postcard from Sherlock Homes - Jan 2006)
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image]

I tried artificially lightening the dark image to draw out more detail but had to stop here because everything was washing out.  We appear to be looking south.  You can make out the handsome old station building (long gone) with its colonnaded shed, two ca. 1925-29 cars, a low platform on the eastbound (northbound here) side and a high platform with a shed on the westbound (southbound here) side.  Note the two elegant benches for people waiting; what a nice touch, missing today.  Then see the trash on the single track (double now) and maybe not so much has changed, after all, except that the area is all built up, now.

This is also posted on the LIRR page 9, where many questions are posed.


Nassau Brick Works

When A(lexander). T(unney). Stewart, the mercantile king, decided to build his dream city (actually just a residential community that to this day remains, administratively, a village), Garden City, he built the Central Railroad of Long Island to service it and he also built the Nassau Brick Works in Central Park (now Bethpage), near the junction of the Central RR and the Long Island Rail Road for the bricks to build his vision.  The brick works, begun in 1872, survived well towards the end of the 20th Century but has now disappeared into the rubble of a concrete plant.  Now and then, a brick turns up here and there; I found mine alongside the right-of-way of the old Long Island Motor Parkway in Bethpage:

NassauBrick
(22 Nov 2005 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

It is a "new" brick, slightly battered and dirty, to be sure, but unused; I have no clue how old it might be.

Motor Parkway Panel Friend Frank Smith seems to have uncovered a veritable trove of Nassau Bricks in Bethpage State Park, in the crook of Round Swamp Road, just opposite the southern end of Winding Road and the location of the old Nassau Brick Works:

East Nassau Map
(29 Dec 2006 map by and © 2006 S. berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed image - click on map for bigger image.]

The brick pile is also just north-west of the old Central RR turntable pit.  So much history in one small patch of land!

Here are reductions of some of Frank's Sep 2006 photos of the brick piles:

FSNassBrick22 FSNassBrick24

FSNassBrick18 FSNassBrick12
(reduced from Sep 2006 pictures by F. Smith - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed pictures - click on images for bigger pictures.]

Incidentally, the actual bricks used in building Garden City itself were marked:

"GARDEN CITY CO"


See also the Fairchild Aerial Survey page.



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