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S. Berliner, III
Consultant in Ultrasonic Processing
"changing materials with high-intensity sound"

[consultation is on a fee basis]

Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher



note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

{Many images lost; see Problem}


S. Berliner, III's

sbiii.com

LONG ISLAND
Page

note-rt - I moved from Long Island to Massachusetts in July 2010
and these pages may not be kept current.

Page Index

On this main Long Island page:
Long Island Studies Institute.
Walt Whitman.
LI Historical Miscellany.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 0 (material moved 17 Mar 04):

Long Island (and related) Links.
Long Island's Original Inhabitants (Native Americans/Indians).
Culluloo Telawana (last of the Rockaway Indians).
Inisfada - St. Ignacius Retreat House.
Gould Gatehouse.
Nassau Brick Works.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 1 (material moved 08 Nov 00):

1906 Hyde Map of Long Island.
Long Island's Original East End.
Rock Hall.
Lord's Woods.
Long Island Questions.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 2 (material moved 29 Apr 02):

Suydam Homestead (Suydam House and Barn Museum).
Oyster Bay - village, town, ship.
Sea Cliff.
Great Paths - Indian Trails to Highways. On the Long Island Continuation Page 3:
Long Island Automotive Manufacturing (moved to page 3 on 04 Jun 03).


This page was separated out from my History page on 31 Oct 00.
The Long Island Continuation Pages 1and 2 were separated from this page
and neither is restricted to just the history of Long Island.


[See the disclaimer on the History page and AUTHORITY on my Home Page.]   added (04 Sep 2012)


LONG ISLAND

A great place to live, to explore
(and to go broke)!

[It's upscale and expensive and getting more so every day.
What will happen to all those affluent middlemen and .com-ers
and their flashy showpiece homes when the bubble breaks?]

Long Island, called Paumanok by the local Algonkian Native Americans (13 "tribes" of them), is shaped like a whale running east to west, with the twin forks as the tail flukes facing east towards England, which is why it was nicknamed the Sunrise Homeland by developers between the wars:

LI Outline Map
(Map by and © 2000 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Manhattan is to the far left (west) across the East River (actually only a tidal estuary) and New York City, which encompasses Manhattan (The Borough of Manhattan, New York County), Staten Island (the Borough and County of Richmond), and the Bronx (the Borough and County of the Bronx), also includes Brooklyn (the Borough of Brooklyn, Kings County) [the lower left (southwest) corner of Long Island and Queens (the Borough and County of Queens) [the upper left (northwest) corner of the Island.  Connecticut is to the top (north) across Long Island Sound (mostly some 20 miles across except at the ends), with Rhode Island to its east, diagonally upper-right (northeast).  Peconic Bay is between the forks, with Riverhead at its head, and the Atlantic Ocean is at the bottom (south), beyond the Great South Bay, enclosed by the long string of barrier beaches - Coney Island at the far left (west), Rockaway Beach, Atlantic Beach, Long Beach, Jones Beach, Fire Island, and then the South Fork with the Hamptons and finally Montauk Point itself at the far right (east).  The North Fork ends at Orient Point, with Plum Island just offshore and Gardiners Island between the points.

Here is a satellite view:

LI Satellite View

I am reminded (03 Jun 01, by a Manhattanite) that there is, politically, one more part of Long Island; Fishers Island, in a straight line from Orient Point through Plum Island, only some 2 miles due south of Groton Long Point and Noank in Connecticut, some 12¾ miles NNW of Montauk Point, and only about 1 mile wide (NNW-SSE) and about 5 miles long (WSW-ENE); it is a part of New York State, Suffolk County, and the Town of Southold (go figure), but it gets its mail through New London and so has a Connecticut postal ZIP code(06390, whereas the Manhattan-Bronx-Staten Island part of NYC is 10xxx and all LI (including the Brooklyn-Queens part of NYC) is 11xxx.

Similarly, Block Island is on a line extended 15 miles through Montauk Point (and thence 'way across the open ocean to the Elizabeth Islands and on to Woods Hole and Falmouth on Cape Cod), but Block Island is politically part of Rhode Island (but is WAS once in Dukes County in New York State - see Long Island's Original East End on LI Continuation Page 1).

Brooklynites and Queens residents don't usually acknowledge that they are on Long Island.  That's all right; we don't think of them that way, either!  To many of us, New York City means Manhattan, with its plethora of theaters and museums, restaurants and stadia, etc., anyway.

It is always amusing to drive from Manhattan out 5 or 10 miles on Long Island in Queens County on the inappropriately-named Long Island Expressway (the Big Lie - it is rarely an "express" way and often called the "World's Longest Parking Lot") and find overhead signs directing one to (where else?) Long Island!

According to William Wallace Tooker's 1911 "The Indian Place Names of Long Island" (which book, I gather, is highly suspect), Paumanock could mean either "Land of Tribute" or "Land of Traveling by Water"; I'll opt for the latter, since the former seems one that would have been used about Long Island, not on Long Island (a common mistake in recording Native American place and tribal names).  See LI Continuation Page 0 for more on Long Island's original inhabitants.


LONG ISLAND BUFFS

should enjoy these great sites:

NEWSDAY's Long Island A-ZTM,

NEWSDAY's Long Island - our Story,

Jim Fordyce's Long Island's Page-of-Pages,

The Oyster Bay Historical Society,
and its superb publication (thanks, Tom Kuehhas), the FREEHOLDER,
"The History Magazine of the Town of Oyster Bay".

Also in Oyster Bay is the splendid museum and headquarters of the Townsend Society of America, where the archives and library of the Underhill Society of America are also housed.  All this ties in with nearby Raynham Hall, where the Underhill Society is headquartered.  Raynham Hall is named for the ancestral (and still) seat of the Viscounts Towns(h)end of Raynham in East Raynham (~4 miles SW of Fakenham), Norfolk, England; the Townsend and Underhill families are among the first settlers in this area and are related.

Bob Muller's fantastic "Long Island's Lighthouses, Past and Present" site,

and the Long Island Motor Parkway sites noted below.

Then there's also my own Frank Buck (and his Zoo) - Bring 'em back Alive page; the zoo was in Massapequa.

WOW!  Did you know that there was a working steam automobile called the "Dudgeon" (the builder's family name, not as in "high" - only a gudgeon would think that) built before the Civil War in Manhattan and a second car built right after the Civil War and housed and run right here in Oyster Bay, Long Island, New York?  The second car is still around, in the Smithsonian and still workable, in Oyster Bay; the latter supposedly ran on the streets in the last quarter-century or so (the other car burned in the great Crystal Palace fire)!

Motor Parkway Panel convenor Sam Berliner, III (your host) contributed the cover story on the Long Island Motor Parkway (especially as it traversed the narrow central portion of the Town of Oyster Bay - through Central Park/Bethpage) for the Winter 2000 issue of the FREE-HOLDER, the newsletter of the Oyster Bay Historical Society, of which he was a member.  On page 20 of the Summer 2001 issue, I also covered the parallel route of the Central RR of Long Island.

The Smithsonian's National Museum of American History's Road Transportation exhibit page states, "The oldest self-propelled road vehicle is a steam-powered carriage built in 1866 by Richard Dudgeon of New York City {sic}"; it was on Long Island for most of its pre-SI life (except for a post-WWII stint in Rhode Island).

SPLIA (new site) - The Society for the Preservation of Long Island Antiquities
  with six house museums and more and especially its outstanding SPLIA Gallery in Cold Spring Harbor,
a refurbished Carnegie-era library now used as an exhibit hall.

Friends for Long Island's Heritage, with its many museums such as
Sands Point/Falaise, Old Bethpage Village Restoration, St. James General Store, etc.,
and especially its Cradle of Aviation Museum at Mitchel Field
(this latter in conjunction with Nassau County).

The Cradle of Aviation museum opened 20 May 2002.
Do NOT miss this museum; it is "world class" - a jewel!

Of course, Sands Point/Falaise is/are on Cow Neck, so I invite you to visit the site of the
Cow Neck Peninsula Historical Society

(but can't resist the dig that "Neck Peninsula" sure sounds redundant to me).

Nassau County Historical Society, P.O. Box 207, Garden City, N.Y. 11530.

    Formed in 1915, reactivated in 1930s
(collection on permanent loan to Nassau County Museum, LI Studies Institute, Hofstra University).

Suffolk County Historical Society (in Riverhead).

Vanderbilt Museum
(William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s home, personal museum, and planetarium in Centerport).

See the Bowne House page for the 1657 Flushing Remonstrance
one of the earliest and most powerful (and successful)
pleas for religious freedom in North America.
(My apologies; this link dated the Remonstrance at 1627 in error.)

The Queens Historical Society,
although you really have to visit their actual place, "Kingsland", in Flushing
(map on the Bowne page).

Museums of Long Island - An Interactive Resource List.

Another star in LI's crown is the Gilbert and Sullivan Light Opera Company of Long Island;
their performances are not to be missed!


Long Island is also fortunate to have the

Long Island Studies Institute

(at) Hofstra University

619 Fulton Street
Hempstead, New York  11550-1090

(on the north side of Hempstead Turnpike [Rte. 24],
well west of the campus in the Library Services building)

516-463-6411 (call first)


Before I get into the rest of the material that was on this page and remains so, I moved a bit of it off, to , to make room for the following:


Aerial Photos of Long Island

Several other focii of my site are directly or indirectly oriented to Long Island, especially my 1908-1938 Long Island Motor Parkway and Long Island Rail Road and its old Central Branch (former Central RR of LI) coverage.  On a number of pages on both subjects, I have posted dramatic aerial photos of areas containing the rights-of-way (RoW) of both "roads".  Perhaps most dramatic of all is this view of Mitchel Field as it was on 11 Feb 1937, a year and two months before the Motor Parkway closed down; in this view, Roslyn is in the upper left corner, New Cassell in the upper right, Uniondale in the lower left, and East Meadow in the lower right, with Hempstead Turnpike running across the bottom, and the LIMP, Stewart Avenue, and the Central Branch across the center (this appears to be a US Army Air Corps picture):

MitchelFld37
(1937 Aerial photo courtesy H. Kroplick - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for VERY much larger (1.1Mb) image]

This view and an annotated copy, with an alphabetical key index and many detailed views is shown on LIMP Central Nassau (County) Continuation Page 1 and also on Central RR of LI continuation page 4.  Just as a Gold Coast teaser, however, that little light spot at the upper left (about ¼-way in from the left, above, and at upper left, below) is Clarence MacKay's extravagant Harbor Hill [HH] perched high atop Roslyn hill and the one at top center may well be the Harry Payne Whitney estate in Old Westbury:

MitchelFld37GoldCoast
(Detail of 1937 Aerial photo courtesy H. Kroplick - all rights reserved)

but then what might that third one with the trés grand allées be?

- - - * - - -
See also the Fairchild Aerial Survey page.


Walt Whitman

The NY State Park site is official.  [There is also a Walt Whitman Birthplace Museum site a'buildin' (???).]

The Walt Whitman Birthplace State Historic Site is located at 246 Old Walt Whitman Road, West Hills, Huntington Station, New York  11746 (one block west of Route 110, just south of Northern State Parkway and Old Country Road), 631-427-5240.  There are also excellent write-ups about Whitman and the house, and about the Walt Whitman Birthplace Association on the 516.com area web.

The house was built ca. 1819 by Whitman's father and there are a number of other Whitman houses in the exceedingly-beautiful and historic West Hills area and his old newspaper office, a white stone building, still stands on the southwest corner of Main Street and Clinton Street (opposite Green Street) in downtown Huntington village (with a totally incongruous and inappropriate Gap store occupying the wholly-revised first.floor).

I'll have to get over to Huntington and West Hills and take some pictures and include the pre-revolutionary Peace and Plenty Inn while I'm at it.


Suydam Homestead - (Suydam House and Barn Museum) - moved 29 Apr 02.


If you love the North Country or the Adirondack Mountains, especially the area around the Fulton Chain of Lakes and the Eckford Lakes, Raquette Lake and Blue Mountain Lake, you'll love the Adirondack Museum smack dab in the heart of the Adirondacks at Blue Mountain Lake, New York.  It tells the story of the Adirondacks far better than any book could.  I heartily recommend a visit!  You might also wish to look at my own Adirondacks page.

You might also like to visit my other pages which are replete with historical information, such as railroads, including ALCO-GE-IR Boxcabs and the vest-pocket railroads, including Marion River Carry Railroad, the Degnon Terminal RR in Long Island City, and the Cradle of Aviation".  There's been quite a bit in the news over the years about the late George C. Dade, an early LI flier who chauffered Lindbergh and is the young kid helping him on with a parachute (but that famous photo was taken AFTER the Paris flight); I've done an oral history with him and will be adding bits here and there.


The former Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad's diminutive steam switching locomotive #16, the last steamer to run regularly on Long Island, is now out at the RR Museum of LI in Riverhead so one more item of our heritage has been kept from going off-island!

Now, lets keep that old LIRR car that has been sitting alongside the LI Expressway as a travel information office, from the torch (too late)!  I'd also like to preserve at a RR museum the old LIRR combine I saw on the west side of some N-S road out around William Floyd Parkway or so.

Also, see the Brooklyn Historic Railway Association and the legendary LIRR Atlantic Avenue Tunnel.

Speaking of the LIRR, I have an abiding interest in a number of things, including, especially, Z-scale (modelling 220 times smaller than life), the Long Island Rail Road, Long Island history (this page, et seq.), the earliest production diesel locomotives, known as oil-electric boxcabs, and the American Locomotive Co. (ALCo), builder, with General Electric and Ingersoll-Rand, of those first boxcabs.

This multiplicity of interests leads to an interesting dilemma; where do I cover models of historic LIRR oil-electric boxcabs?  The answer?  On all those pages!  Many are cross-linked but I commend to you checking out all of them.  Here, for a teaser, is the first mating of the custom Z-scale body shell to the custom chassis of LIRR #401, the world's first diesel road switcher, the second production diesel locomotive, and the first diesel locomotive to make a long-distance revenue run:

Z 401 Shell Z 401 Body
(photos 31 Oct 02 by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III)

That's a "gold" dollar for comparison and the clerestory roof is only sitting there, not yet properly emplaced.

The LIRR #401 was soon followed by an unsuccessful #402 (returned) and then an eminently successful #402, and a pair of tiny units, #403A and #403B; they all (even the first #402, but for the GT&W), as well as the Pennsylvania RR's first diesel locomotive (#3905, used on the Brooklyn waterfront at North 4th Street, immediately south of the BEDT), soldiered on well into the mid-50s.

BIG NEWS! - Dave Keller and Steve Lynch have produced a book of Dave's LIRR photos, many never before seen by the public, entitled:

THE LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD
1925 - 1975

to be published by Arcadia Publishing ca. September 2004 at $19.95.


Material about the

Native Americans ("Indians") of Long Island and

Cullulloo Telawanna, "Last of the Rockaway Iroquois Indians",

has been moved to the next page, LI Cont. Page 0.


Rock Hall This is an old pre-revolutionary (ca. 1767) Georgian house in Lawrence; the material has been moved to the Long Island Continuation Page 1.


Lord's Woods - about a two-mile stretch along the area now carrying Peninsula Boulevard through Woodmere and Hewlett; this material has been moved to the Long Island Continuation Page 1.


Long Island Questions - the material has been moved to the Long Island Continuation Page 1.


HISTORICAL MISCELLANY

Spurred by Black History Month, I've added a few details relating to black Americans, Long Island, and Unitarianism on my Unitarian page.

See the Long Island Motor Parkway page, et seq.

A Motor Parkway Panel has been convened to keep the LIMP alive in minds and museums.

Speaking of L. I. roads, how about that fascinating Skunk's Misery Road in Lattingtown?

Skunk's Misery Road signs at West End Avenue and at 10th Street in Glen Cove
and at Overlook Road in Lattingtown:

Skunk's Misery at West End   Skunk's Misery at 10th St.   Skunk's Misery at Overlook
(Pictures by and © 1999 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for large images.]

It's Lattingtown Road on the south side in Glen Cove and
Skunk's Misery on the north side in Lattingtown.

When Specialties, Inc., moved from Skunk's Misery Road to Syosset,
they supposedly petitioned the Postal Service to maintain their unique address.


Hey, if we can have a Skunk's Misery Road, we can have a single-hole golf course in a small front yard (on Sea Cliff Avenue in Glen Cove):

GlenCoveGolf

The City of Long Beach ("The City by the Sea"), and "Long Island's Island", is more-than-amply covered on Chuck Jacobi's fantastic " Long Beach" page, et seq.  Just the photo documentation of the burning of the Nautilus Hotel ca. 1959, alone, made it more than worth my while.


I used to enjoy the Big Grey Celtic music concerts; the only thing Celtic about me is my touch o' the Blarney (BS = Blarney Stone) and my Scythian roots (my mother was a Magyar), but I dearly love the Irish and Scottish music - unfortunately Big Grey failed in 2006.



LEGACY

  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.

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See Copyright Notice on primary home page.


Please visit the main History Page, et seq.



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