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TALL SHIP

REGINA MARIS


Please refer to the HELP section on the main Naval and Marine page.

INDEX:

  On the main Naval and Maritime page:

    Tall Ships.
    Nautical Reminiscences and Miscellany.
    Jakobson's Rail-Marine Tugboats.
    Rail-Marine Service.
    HELP! - requests and offers.

  On the preceding Naval and Maritime Continuation Page 1:

    The USS Franklin.
    Submarines (moved from main page 06 May 02).
    Relics.
    PT Boats.
    Mahogany speedboats (raceabouts, sportabouts, etc.).
    Comet Authenticast ship models.
    Yet More Yarns.

  On the preceding Naval and Maritime Continuation Page 2:

    Tall Ships - continued.

  On this Regina Maris Page:

    Regina Maris
    Regina Maris Crew Reunion. (05 Jun 2014)
    Queen's (Regina's?) Cup. (22 Dec 2014)
    Around the World Tee Shirt,   new (17 Jun 2015)


Regina Maris

    (continued from Tall Ships on main Naval and Maritime page and
        from Tall Ships on Naval and Maritime Continuation Page 2)


The Regina Maris Association continues the tradition of the ship and her crew(s).  Any crew member who missed the latest REUNION should try to make the next one and anyone who did not know of it should sign in on the Jolly Boat Facebook page (if, like me, you won't use Facebook, let me know and I'll be happy to pass your information along).  The Jolly Boatis the monthly newsletter of the Regina Maris Association.   rev (02 Nov 2016)

JollyBoat
(Jun 2015 image courtesy of Regina Maris Society - all rights reserved)

Speaking of the reunions, the 2015 Reunion was in the Pacific Northwest; see below for details.   rev (02 Nov 2016)


Glen Cove had acquired Greenport's old "tall" ship, the "Regina Maris" and berths the "Phoenix" (an environmental training ship) [as well as the "Thomas Jefferson" (an hydraulically-operated working side-wheeler)]!  Nearby Oyster Bay houses the oyster sloop "Christeen" {sic}, under restoration.

Regina Maris at Glen Cove   Phoenix at Glen Cove
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for sharper images.]
(Feb 1999 Photos by and © 1999 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

    [The story of the Regina Maris had gotten so complex that I moved it to this page on 25 Oct 2003.]

Uh, oh!  The Regina Maris "down" in Glen Cove Creek!  How about the Regina Submaris?  It's the 100th anniversary of the Holland submarine and the Regina Maris got carried away with herself and very successfully emulated the South's Hunley (except that no one went down with our Queen of the Sea):

Regina Maris down in Glen Cove
(06 Jun 2000 Photo by and © 2000 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

She was moved across the creek to a "better" mooring but the deeper water allowed her to settle further and the water line was above some unrestored timberwork which let her flood.

    Hey - why is it Glen Cove Creek?.  The creek IS the cove, or v.v.!

Plans were to put a plastic diaper under her and pump her out (again!), but she's GONE!  NEWSDAY for 05 Feb 2002 (page A17) reported that she was too far gone for any possible economic salvage and has been cut up and her masts set in concrete on the esplanade along the water's edge; her wheel, portions of her oak decking, and her 94-year-old figurehead are to be displayed alongside.  Here is all I could see on 07 Feb 2002 but the waterfont park is under construction and posted and I'm no trespasser, so here is all I could see, her masts and yards, complete with shrouds, ratlines, and rigging [but look at that poor fore top-gallant yard (unless it's the upper fore-topsail yard)!]:

Regina Maris masts
(07 Feb 2002 Photo by and © 2002 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

[More current photos below.]   added (14 Feb 2012)

As awful as this apparent act of "monumental vandalism" may appear, the simple fact is that no one came forward with the bucks to save her AND only her hull below the waterline, what precious little of that was salvageable, was original!  NEWSDAY's Joe Haberstroh, pageA29, 17 Feb 2002, revealed that this ship was never a barkentine to begin with, she was built in Denmark in 1908 as the "Regina" with a different rig {see below} for use as a Baltic coastal cargo carrier (mostly in timber) and that she had burned to the WATERLINE in 1961 and was rebuilt!  She was rerigged as a barkentine in 1964.  So just what did we lose?  See below.  And, no, she did NOT, as reported, carry Holocaust refugees/survivors to safety.

[For the record, thanks to Pierre Manigault, of Charleston, SC, who sailed to Greenland in Regina Maris in 1983 (an experience that led to his serving in two other big square-riggers over the next five years) {only slightly edited}:]

"Regina was launched as a three-masted fore-and-aft rigged schooner in 1908 at the famous Ring-Anderson shipyard in Svendborg, Denmark.  She carried general cargo in the Baltic until the end of WWII when, with cargoes for schooners drying up, she became a cod fisherman off the Grand Banks and Iceland.  In 1960, she resumed carrying cargo in the Baltic and, in 1963, she caught fire off the island of Bornholm.  She was abandoned by her crew before a Russian trawler came along, put out the fire and towed her into the port of Ystad.  She was badly damaged.  By all rights she should have ended her sailing career then ... and an impressive career it would have been.  Through 50 years and two wars she had already outlived most of her kind.  Fate is strange, however.  The fire that should have killed her proved to be the catalyst for her rebirth.  The two Norwegian brothers Wilson were romanced by her charm; they rebuilt her, rerigged her as a barkentine, and launched her on her second and significantly more exciting life.  Through the course of two circumnavigations with the Wilsons she became the first wooden sailing ship to round Cape Horn in 60 years, she was dismasted in the Atlantic, survived a typhoon in the Indian Ocean, and had her crew mutiny their captain.  The voyage created much excitement and a movie was made that a whole generation of Norwegians was raised on.  After seven years with the Wilsons, she was sold to an American syndicate that put her in the Pacific charter trade.  On one cruise, she was caught in a hurricane off the Mexican coast with 56 people crammed aboard.  A sea flooded the engine room early on, leaving the ship's company no choice but to bail with buckets.  Five days later she was abandoned (for the second time in her career).  She was salvaged and put back on the market.  In 1975 she starred in a movie about Joseph Conrad.  After filming, she was left in Piraeus, Greece.  In 1976, fortune shone on her again when Dr. George Nichols of the Ocean Research and Education Society in Gloucester, MA, bought her and began the final chapter of her sailing life.  Between April 1976 and October 1985, when she was retired, Regina Maris sailed more than 100,000 miles in waters from Alaska to the Caribbean to Greenland.  She had more than 1,000 different people pass through her whale research programs and launched many of them into marine conservation careers.  A 1988 count indicated that at least a third of the members of the North Atlantic Marine Mammal Association had sailed on Regina.  Much of the data gathered on Regina's voyages contributed to the International Whaling Commission's 1985 moratorium on commercial whaling."

"After the fire much of her was replaced. But even that was superficial ... she still had the same strong oak frames, the same heavy stem ... but, yes, a new deck, new deck houses, and a new rig.  She went on to have a second life that was infinitely more exciting than most ships (or people for that matter).  Was she worth saving?"  "She was a beautiful ship with a rich history and a profound influence on the people who sailed in her.  She was one of the last two wooden barkentines still afloat (the only one now is Gazella Of Philadelphia).  Perhaps Regina wasn't worth saving, but if she wasn't, what ship is?" {emphases mine - SB,III}.

On 22 and 24 Oct 2003, I heard from Chuck van der Linden, who sailed sailed on her in 1979 off the coast of Alaska; "one of those things you remember all your life".  He discovered my page while trying to find out what had happened to her (he'd heard all sorts of things, including her being deliberately sunk to weather out a hurricane).  Chuck put me on to this image of the Regina Maris in drydock at the Gloucester Marine Railway in October of 1980:

Regina Maris in DD
(Photo by Richard Stanley, courtesy of G. A. Chase - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image - click on picture for larger image.]

On 09 Nov 2005, I heard from P. Hinckle of San Francisco, who "sailed on her in the fall of 1984 when she was the R/V of the Ocean Research and Education Society in Gloucester".  "We sailed the Georges Banks researching humpback whales", "may have been part of the last crew that sailed her at ORES", and believes "they sold or retired her after that since instead of sailing to the Caribbean on her, we were unexpectantly flown down to the Virgin Islands and met with a new ship, the RV Rambler (a modern 3-masted staysail schooner)".  The message included this picture of her berthed in Gloucester before they sailed:

Regina Maris, Gloucester, 1984
(1984 photo courtesy of P. Hinkle - all rights reserved)

The following is from the site of Captain G. Anderson Chase, Professor of Marine Transportation, Maine Maritime Academy.  She's described as a "Topsail Schooner".  Chuck also put me on to a commercial charter site, where she's shown both in her previous rig as a regular schooner and as a barkentine, but they still list her as available; I've asked for permission to reproduce those photos.

They state that "Regina Maris" was converted in 1990 to a threemast schooner and had very spacious deck areas. Even though not luxurious, they say she showed very well, had space for up to 80 day guests, and was a very nice traditional sailing ship even for longer cruises.  They give these dimensions:

    Length: 48,00m
    Beam: 6,90m
    Draft: 3,20m
    Crew: 3 crew plus 80 guests for day sailing,
          36 overnight guests

I was sort of wondering above if the top yard was the topgallant or another; Chuck assures me that it's another.  At the time he sailed on her, she was rigged with five square sails and (if his 20-year-old memory is not faulty) they were Main, Lower Top, Upper Top, Topgallant, and Royal.  Chuck says (very slightly edited), "I console myself with the knowledge that she outlived all but one of her kind.  She cheated 'death' (from a ship's perspective) more times than most square riggers have masts.  She had great adventures, especially for a ship born as a simple Baltic freighter carrying timber and 'nitrates' (a kind word for fertilizer).  She touched more lives than nearly all of her kind (with the exception of ships like Eagle) and parts of her (albeit not original parts) live on yet, even if they are on dry land and will never sail again.  Not the end one would hope, but a better end than most of her peers."

Chuck wishes the rigging could be restored to the "original' (barkentine) five yard-arms; he thinks it looks so strange to see her with only three yards.  "It's just not right; that's not the ship I knew...".  I will pass his comments along to the powers-that-be in Glen Cove.

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Well, BIG NEWS!  On 07 Mar 2011, I heard from Knut Frognes, a Norwegian TV producer who is making a film series, for local consumption, about the Regina (as the Regina Maris was originally named) and he wanted to use some of my pix AND he sent old pix for me to post here,  First and foremost, a picture of her with flags flying at the moment of launching on 28 Mar 1908, from the builder's (Ring Andersen's) brochure (08 Mar 2011):

Regina Maris Brochure
(photo courtesy of K. Frognes - all rights reserved)

To save your eyes, here's the image alone; it's not much as reproductions go but it sure beats not having any photo at all:

Regina Maris Launch
(enlarged from photo courtesy of K. Frognes - all rights reserved)

Next, two gorgeous color shots of her under full sail, taken by Klaus P. Hanusa, the German cameraman that followed Regina around the world:

Regina Maris Silhouette Regina Maris Full Sail
(photos by K. P. Hanusa courtesy of K. Frognes - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed pictures for sharper images.]

ODD! - on the above-right picture, I could swear I count SEVEN yards!   new (02 Nov 2016)

A color postcard view of Regina moored in the harbor at Arendal, Norway:

Regina Maris Arendal
(postcard courtesy of K. Frognes - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed picture for larger image]

Now, for some real marine drama, here she is in a heavy sea (shades of Irving Johnson on the Peking or Alan Villiers on the Grace Harwar rounding the Horn in 1929):

Regina Maris Under Sail
(photo courtesy of K. Frognes - all rights reserved)

What a beauty she was!  How'd I ever get so involved with a 100-year-old sailing ship?

I located six undated old photos I took ca. 2002 of the Regina Maris hulk in Glen Cove after she was set in concrete; the first is the dismal view across the creek from the eastern end of the esplanade, the second a distant view west along the esplanade, and the third a closer view (14 Feb 2012):

Regina Maris Glen Cove 061a

Regina Maris Glen Cove 061b

(undated but ca. 2000 photos by and © 2012 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Next, here are three shots taken the same day, walking up even closer, walking past and looking back at the bow portside, and, finally, on deck looking SE (05 Dec 2012):

Regina Maris Glen Cove 064b Regina Maris Glen Cove 064a Regina Maris Glen Cove 064c
(undated but ca. 2002 photos by and © 2012 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Sad.

Looking at Glen Cove creek on Google Maps on 17 Aug 2012, I thought it looked as if what's left of the Regina Maris had been moved yet again, but it's just not so.  She's facing ESE about 800' (~400m) in from the mouth of the creek on Hempstead Harbor, about 40' (~20m) north of the shoreline.  [My initial reaction was erroneus - just a matter of misperception and memory.] (05 Dec 2012)

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On 06 Mar 2013, I heard from one Jerry Barlows out in California; he has been working on an old residence that is being prepared for rental and the house and property are full of nautical gear, ranging from very old to not so old, mostly U. S. Navy stuff.  He came across what appears to be the bowsprit of the Regina Maris and e-mailed me.  It carries a brass plate reading (08 Mar 2013):

BOWSPRIT
REGINA MARIS  - BARKENTINE 1908

Here is a "teaser" shot Jerry sent me:

Regina Maris Bowsprit
(06 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

The house where this was located is in San Dimas, California, and Jerry wanted to learn how this wooden bowsprit wound up in California, thinking it may have been from an early retrofit as it appears to be marked as an original spar.  Well, I steered him to the July 2009 RM blogspot, re "Regina Maris in the 1972 Pacific hurricane"; 'nuf said!

Naturally, I asked for more pix and Jerry obliged, in spades!  One thing I wanted to know. right off the bat, was how long was this fragment and he shot back 95½" (242.57cm) and sent a picture of the sprit with himself (all 5' 7" of him - I like his truck!):

Jerry Barlows with Regina Maris Bowsprit
(07 Mar 2013 photo by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

What follows are a bunch of miscellaneous pix of the bowsprit in somewhat arbitrary order; starting with two more full-length shots:

ReginaMarisBowsprit12" ReginaMarisBowsprit95.5"
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

Then, two more of the brass plate:

ReginaMarisBowspritBrassPlate1 ReginaMarisBowspritBrassPlate2
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

The base and the cut end (apparently hand sawn):

ReginaMarisBowspritBase ReginaMarisBowspritBaseCut
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

If you'll forgive my nautical ignorance, a metal band (bobstay or forestay fitting?) was once wrapped around the sprit and that area is detailed next:

ReginaMarisBowspritBand ReginaMarisBowspritBandArea
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

Those two preceding shots show how a slot or groove was cut to take a sheave/pulley/block; here are the full slot from underneath and the topside opening:

ReginaMarisBowspritForwardTip ReginaMarisBowspritUpperBlockSlot
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

Since we seem to be progressing from the cut base fo'ard, let's now show the tip, itself, in detail, and end by showing the Regina Maris's old bowsprit loaded and waiting to embark on its latest voyage:

ReginaMarisBowspritTip ReginaMarisBowspritWaiting
(07 Mar 2013 photos by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

Thanks for playing salvor, Jerry!  Now, who knows how this relic ended up being saved, placarded, and under a house in San Dimas?



REUNION! - There was a reunion of crewmembers in Sep 2013 (and it was a BLAST!) (09 Sep 2013):

    Regina Maris Reunion 2013
    Port of Call:  Gloucester, MA, USA
    Location:  Maritime Gloucester
    Position:  42N 36' - 070W 39'
    Dates:  6-8 September 2013

I was invited to attend as a guest and ended up spending the whole day on Saturday, including a glorious two-hour sail on the Pinky schooner Ardelle* and a grand buffet dinner.   new (09 Sep 2013)

    * - Others sailed on the schooner Thomas E. Lannon, both built by Robert Burnham of Essex, Massachusetts.

About 115 people attended, of which some 85% were former crew members; the rest were family and guests and about 50 others were unable to attend.

Anyone who missed this reunion should try to make the next one and anyone who did not know of it should sign in on the Jolly Boat Facebook page (if, like me, you won't sign on to Facebook, let me know and I'll be happy to pass your information along).

2015ReginaMarisReunion
(2015 Reunion Logo from RMA Jolly Boat - all rights reserved)

2015 Reunion - Regina Maris visited the Pacific Northwest and SE Alaska in the summer and fall of 1979 on the ORES mission of whale research and 36 years later, her crew returned. Port Townsend, WA, was the location for the first two days and Smuggler's Cove, San Juan Island, WA, for the following days - 19 August to 22 August 2015.  To whet your appetite, here's Lee Bruno's stunning image of Regina in the Pacific Northwest in 1979 (05 May 2014):

ReginaMarisPacificNW1979
(1979 photo by L. Bruno, from Jun 2014 RMA Jolly Boat - all rights reserved)

If THAT didn't make you want to attend, what could?


Queen's (Regina's?) Cup - Jerry Barlows has done it again!  While going through the piles of things that Danny Spiers, Chief Engineer under Paul Nelson's command in 1971, collected and stacked, he found a small pewter cup measuring approximately 3" high with an outside diameter of 1⅞", an inside diameter of 1⅝", and weighing 5 oz. (22 Dec 2014):

ReginaMarisQueensCup2
(cropped from 2014 photo by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed picture for bigger image.]

It holds 1½ oz. of liquid by weight and has a small handle that fits two fingers and is inscribed:

THE QUEEN
GOD
BLESS HER
BARKENTINE
REGINA MARIS

ReginaMarisQueensCup2
(cropped and lightened from 2014 photo by G. W. Barlows - all rights reserved)

Paul thinks the cup was probably made in Lisbon in 1970, during dry-docking of the Regina Maris when the rum casks were installed.

Jerry's guess is that this was used in the early days for drinking rum.  Mine is it's a souvenir, a memento.  Anyone?


Around the World Tee Shirt   new (17 Jun 2015)

RAroundWorldTeeShirt
(Jun 2015 image courtesy of Regina Maris Society - all rights reserved)

"Pictured here is First Mate Peter Wilson from when Regina went Around the World under the command of Captain John Aa Wilson.  Our shipmate, Roger Callan, who {was} on board at the time, supplies this background,  'The history of the shirt was, that an artist member of the crew (Norway to Lisbon-May 1966) designed and made the stencil to print the graphics on to the t-shirts.  According to the tag on my shirt, which is #16, the white T-shirts came from Portugal so they must have been purchased there.  The printing was done by hand on-board using the hand cut stencil and adjustments were then made to correct any faults.  I have 2 shirts, one was a prototype and is well worn, and one, the original # 16 with my name on the hem.'  We have taken the graphic design directly from one of Roger's original shirts."

{from The Jolly Boat e-dispatch No. 28.0 Jun 2015}

PeterWilson
(Jun 2015 image courtesy of Regina Maris Society - all rights reserved)


I'm not really a RMer; I saw her as she was (and was aboard dockside) in Greenport and again in Glen Cove, and watched helplessly as she went down.  I have many pix posted here of her under sail, or at least fully rigged, but two beautiful '79 Alaskan pix just broke my heart - what a horrible dénouement!  Thanks to Steve Nelson, here they are, preceded by the L. Bruno picture above:   added (02 Nov 2016)

RMSEAKb3
(1979 photo by L. Bruno, from Jun 2014 RMA Jolly Boat - all rights reserved)

RMo1dSEAK
(photos courtesy of S. Nelson - all rights reserved)

RMSEAKa
(photos courtesy of S. Nelson - all rights reserved)
Regina Maris at anchor in SE Alaska during Ocean Research and Education Society Expedition 15 of Jun 1979


JWAroundWorld ORESLogo JWWorldWideLogo RMSocLogo
(Jun 2015 images courtesy of Regina Maris 1908 - all rights reserved)


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Tall Ships) on main Naval and Maritime page and
Tall Ships) on Naval and Maritime Continuation Page 2.


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