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note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.


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Railroad Continuation Page 4


RAILROADING
Continuation Page 4


NOTE:  Page size was limited by HTML to 30kB; thus, I was forced to add this continuation page and continuation pages to fit the lengthy Horseshoe Curve and Berlinerwerke sagas and relocate the Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model.

NOTE:  In addition, I was also forced to move Long Island Rail Road and related Long Island railroad information onto separate LIRR continuation pages.


INDEX:

On the main RR page:
  Link to ALCo Love Song (moved 16 Dec 99 to it's own separate page)
  EMD Paean
  New York, Boston & Westchester Railroad
  Standard Gauge

On Railroad Continuation Page 1:
  TRAIN SHED Cyclopedia.
  1941 Loco Prices

On Railroad Continuation Page 2:
  RR Miscellany, including:

A and B vs. F Ends.
Southern Railroad.
B&O and C&O.
Bering Strait Tunnel.

On Railroad Continuation Page 3:

(Material moved from Railroad Page 2 on 21 Apr 00)
  Oddities.
including a Staten Island Trackless Trolley!
  Articulateds (and Duplexiii).
  Degrees of Curvature.
  RR Questions (Help)

On this continuation page 4:
  Anhalter Bahnhof - world's largest trainshed.
  New York, Boston & Westchester.
  RR Miscellany.
  Hal Carstens.   LinkAdded (18 Nov 2016)
  Trolleys (about nomenclature) {moved from BHRA page on 10 Feb 2005}.
  Staten Island RR

On Railroad Continuation Page 5:
  More RR Miscellany.   new (07 Sep 2012)

On other pages:

ALCO-GE-IR Boxcabs,
ALCO-GE-IR Survivor Boxcabs continuation page, with roster, and
ALCO-GE-IR Survivor Boxcabs continuation page, with notes,
ALCO-GE-IR CNJ #1000 Survivor Boxcab (the first production unit sold),
ALCO-GE-IR Boxcabs Continuation Page, including LIRR #401,
  the world's first production diesel road switcher, and
Ingersoll-Rand Boxcabs, with a 1929 I-R boxcab brochure,
  and I-R and GE Instruction Sheets for a 1929 600HP, 100-ton unit.
Other Boxcabs, with a boxcabs bibliography.
S. Berliner, III's Pennsylvania Railroad Page,

with THE SOUTH PENN RR,
and PRR Modeling (Penn Line/Cary/Bowser)
Berlinerwerke Saga (HO-Scale, included with Horseshoe Curve information)
and continuation pages with prototype and HO/N/S scale dimensions,
  satellite photo, pictures, description of the Horseshoe Curve.
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad
EMD - Electro-Motive Division of GM - models, etc.,
including EMD engines EMD may never have dreamed of,
such as the great DDP45!

Railroads You can Model,

Marion River Carry Railroad* (now on its own page).
    Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model:
Degnon Terminal Railroad, plus
    Murrer's and Kearney Sidings, and Blissville/Laurel Hill (and Maspeth and Fresh Pond).
    Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model - continued
Atlas Terminal RR

Schnable and other Giant RR Cars, et seq..
The Whyte System of Classification (4-4-0, 4-6-2, B-B, etc.).
MODEL RAILROADING, et seq.

plus Z-Scale (1:220) Model Railroading.
    Sub-Z Scale - 1:440 and even 1:900 Tiny Trains!
Long Island Rail Road, et seq.
Long Island Railroads

Long Island Rail Road Historical Society Home Page.

Brooklyn Historic Railway Association and the legendary LIRR Atlantic Avenue Tunnel.

PRR Horseshoe and Muleshoe Curves
    minor write up here; on separate page with Berlinerwerke Saga
Schnabel heavy duty freight cars
    on Model Railroads page (now with photos!)

Railroad Eagles - my/Dave Morrison's page about the Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal eagles.

Z-Scale (1:220) Model Railroading.
    Z-Scale Page 3 with

Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains and even 1:900 Tiniest Trains!

HOW TO BOOT A STEAM LOCOMOTIVE or How to hostle without really tiring -
    (Firing up a cold oil burner).


Give Credit Where Credit is Due Department - see the main RR page.


ANHALTER BAHNHOF
(Anhalt RR Station)
World's Largest Trainshed

Anhalter Bahnhof, Alba
(from cover of Alfred B. Gottwaldt's "Berlin–Anhalter Bahnhof", Alba Publikation - all rights reserved)
{looks like a postcard view}

At the Anhalter Bahnhof in Berlin [the largest trainshed in existence (an HO model is 6' long!), although still a bombed-out hulk as of Sep 1987, just before the Berlin Wall came down], I saw a German Class 52 2-10-0 Decapod and tender which an "artist" (read "vandal") had welded together and plopped upside down (wheels up) as some sort of misguided monument!

NOT "up-ended, and plunked pilot-end-down" as I had previously written!

(The preceding two paragraphs taken from RR page 3.)

Let's set the stage (which is singularly appropriate since the ruins have been turned into an arts center and theater) by giving a sense of the huge scale of the place; first here's that same view with the grand front entrance outlined in RED and here's all that's left of that same grand entrance (north end) on 27 Sep 1987:   rev (10 Nov 2011)

Anhalter Bahnhof view
(from cover of Gottwaldt - highlighted by SB,III - all rights reserved)

Anhalter BH 1
(27 Sep 1987 photos by and © 1987 S. Berliner, III)

The couple in front give some idea of the colossal size of the entrance; but wait!  That arch in the background is an artist's attempt to show the actual vastness; it is the size of the back (south) end of the trainshed and in the exact location.  The construction to the right rear is a large-scale model, perhaps 1:10, to which I'm afraid I paid insufficient attention then.

Walking south to the big model, here's a shot of the arch from much closer up and it STILL doesn't give any inkling of just how huge it actually is:

Anhalter BH 2

Beyond the kiosk and the stockade and such, much closer to the west column supporting the arch, I stumbled on the ultimate horror to a railfan; there's the poor skewered decapod:

Anhalter BH 3

[Shooting against a rainy, late-afternooon sky, the shadows were just too much for my camera, so I have lightened the photo to show some of the loco detail, thus washing out the western tower and west end of the arch behind and above it.]

Later that same day, in the Museum für Verkehrs und Technik (Museum of Transportation and Technology), I found this HO model of the old station as it was before the war:

Anhalter BH 4 Model

Walking around the model, there's the rear (south) end of the trainshed; the arc at the top is the same arc as delineated by the post-war arch:

Anhalter BH 5 Model

All that for only six tracks (albeit long ones)?

Finally, to put all this in perspective, here's the model photo flipped right for left (the station facade IS symmetrical, after all), with details of the first photo (the entrance and the arch, with that couple in the foreground) superimposed offset, but to scale:

Anhalter BH Scale
27 Sep 1987 photos by and © 1987 S. Berliner, III

[If anyone has more current photos of the facades which I may reproduce here, send them along with permission, bitte.]

Märklin released the Anhalter Bahnhof in Z scale (1:220) for it's 2003 line; see my Z page 5.

On my way to cross into the Eastern Sector at Checkpoint Charlie in divided Berlin on 27 Sep 1987, I spotted a paper HO model of the terminal in the window of a closed hobby shop on the Friedrichstraße; a new friend in Germany thinks that Otto's Fibelverlag put that out around 1980 or so.

That same new friend sent me a précis of the history of the Anhalter Bahnhof from the end of WWII (taken largely from "Der Anhalter Bahnhof und seine Lokomotiven", ALBA-Verlag); the station survived the bombings of Berlin rather well, with its walls and ends relatively intact.  The roof was destroyed, but the open shed was in regular use after the partition of Germany; then, with the railroads controlled by East Germany on its founding in 1949 and the terminal being in the Western Sector of Berlin, the East redirected trains to the Schlesischer Bahnhof (Schlesien@ Station - later Ostbahnhof - Eastern Station) at the Stadtbahn (east-west line) starting in 1952, for greater control over passengers.  The terminal lay disused until the West Berlin government wanted to use the land and began demolition in 1956, which progressed slowly; by 1961 only the grand front entrance of the Anhalter Bahnhof still stood (another "monumental act of vandalism").  It then became a listed monument and the demolition was stopped but it took until 1965 to carry the rubble away!  Here, from the files of das Bildarchiv Preußischer Kulturbesitz (bpk - Prussian Picture Archive Culture Collection), is Will McBride's 1957 photo of the terminal:

Anhalter Bahnhof, Will McBride, 1957
(bpk - all rights reserved)

The same friend advised that the Decapod was number 52 2751 (Henschel 2 991 in 1944), a "Kriegslok" (war-locomotive); based on the type 50, the 52 was stripped to basics to save material.  During the war and in the early postwar years, some 6,500 were built.  After WW II, the locos went to the Deutsche Reichsbahn of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany); the DR used them until the 1980's.  In 1987, artist Wolf Vostell made the 52 2751 into monument against war at the Anhalter Bahnhof.  After some months, the monument was taken to Marl in West Germany (that must have been just after I saw it) and he thinks it is still there.  Nowadays, the type 52 is Germany's most active steam loco; a lot of them have survived so he thinks it's okay to have made one into a monument.

A note re the Class 52; they can be found all over Europe, from Norway to Turkey and Russia; after WWII, virtually all European railways had some locos of this type.  The 52 2006 (together with 19 1001) was shipped to the U.S. and sat for some years at Fort Monroe, Virginia.  Some locos of class 52 went after WWII to the western Deutsch Bundesbahn, but were retired by 1963.  The 52 2751 went to the eastern Deutsche Reichsbahn.  All in all, the Deutsche Reichsbahn had some 500 locos of class 52, which were modernized and used until the 1980s.

@ - Schlesien (NOT Schleswig) is a region south-east of Berlin, most of which has belonged to Poland
since the end of WWII [Schleswig is a region at the Danish border (north-west of Berlin)].

There is a lot more material on the Anhalter Bahnhof on my Berlinerwerke-Z Saga Page 7 for modeling purposes (now that I have an actual Z scale model at 1:220 - whadda MONSTER!).   new (10 Nov 2011)


NEW YORK, BOSTON & WESTCHESTER RAILROAD

(moved from RR page 2 on 18 Mar 03)

The Scarsdale Volunteer Ambulance Corps (914-723-3003 or 722-2222 or 472-1125 - there are several listings) had contacted me regarding their old station {at 300 Heathcote Road on the Heathcote Five Corners}, which was apparently a sand and gravel works and then the NYB&W station on Heathcote Road in Scarsdale.  By incredible coincidence, my folks rented there in the summers when I was born and only a few years old, in houses directly next to their station, and on either side within a mile!  I heard from Bill Adams of the SVAC on 16 Nov 97 that, to date (paraphrased), they had dug down 17 feet from the floor of the old station.  One of their Junior Corps. members did some research on the building and found some neat stuff.  It seems that the building they now use was the second on the site.  The first one was built in 1912 as a material transfer station and was used to supply local road building crews.  An article in a local paper had a detailed description of the station and how well it fit in with the feel of the town.  Most locals were against having a freight station in Scarsdale.  Around 1920, the building apparently was removed and the spaces below filled with large rocks and dirt.  The openings to the tracks were sealed and the new station was built on a new foundation.  They have been digging down next to one of the six supports to find out how far down it goes.  So far, they have room for one floor but think they will get down to another.  The article said that the cars would dump their loads and it would be moved to the waiting carts; if so, then the floor should be at least 4 to 6 feet down from the point they have reached.

Anyone with info. on the NYW&B's Scarsdale station should write to Bill Adams at the Scarsdale Volunteer Ambulance Corps. at P. O. Box 92, Scarsdale, New Yorknbsp; 10583, or e-mail Bill at CptBluStar@aol.com {this didn't work 01 Jan 99!}.

More to follow on this odd development, if I hear anything.

A good site for the NYW&B is Pierce Havilland's on his NJ, NY & CT Railroad Page, which now has its own NYW&B page.



RR MISCELLANY

This has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, but my brother-in-law is from far north-western Colorado and he and my sister were out that way earlier in 2002 and my sister shot 1906 Brooks 2-8-0 #641, former Colorado & Southern standard gauger, sitting on display near the LC&S depot in Leadville (there's more plow than loco!):

C&S #641 Leadville 2002
cropped from 2002 photo by S. Berliner, III's sister - all rights reserved

Speaking of western RRing, I was out in California in late April-early May 2004 and took Amtrak's California Zephyr (great!) from there to Chicago and the Lakeshore Limited (not so great) home from Chicago directly into New York's present excuse for Penn Station via the Hudson and the former West Side Freight Line.  While out there, I documented the roof detail of Foley Bros. #110-1, the only surviving twin-engined (100/108-ton) pioneer boxcab road switcher, out in the high Sierras at the Portola RR Museum.  On the trip home, I took a few photos from the trains, most of which were disasters, but caught a snow shed somwhere around the Donner Pass-Truckee area which came out well:

Snow Shed
(08 May 2004 photo by and © 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

I also was awake when we pulled into Omaha, Nebraska, just before dawn on Monday, 10 May 2004, and what to my wondering eyes did appear but a UP Big Boy and a Centennial!  There was just no way I could nail them in the darkness with no flash and no tripod, so I jammed the camera against the glass of the car window and held it there while the automatic exposure control did its very-slow thing; the result was far from satisfactory but here they are in a composite and in the two source photos:

UP 4923 6900

UP 6900

UP 4923
(10 May 2004 photos by and © 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

[Please don't ask me how the building height changed from frame to succeeding frame shot sequentially in the same spot against the train window!]

They turned out to be #4023 and the DDA40X class loco, #6900, donated to Omaha by the UP in Jun 88 and then behind a chain link fence; they are now out in Kennefick Park in eastern Omaha, above the river opposite Council Bluffs (see my Road Loads page 4 for the moves).   rev (08 Nov 2016)


I've always known there were real RR Porta-Potties; here, courtesy of Dan Dawdy of Ribbon Rail Productions, from his ever-changing Oddity of the Month page, is UP's version:

UP Rail Potty
(photos from and © D. Dawdy, by specific permission - all rights reserved to source)

The tow-bar is probably thermally variable, lengthening drastically with rising temperature, and those cans presumably carry additional water for flushing (oh, yeah!).  :o)

Here it is in the fully extended position (to provide olfactory relief):

UP Rail Potty ext.
[original photo from and © D. Dawdy, by not-so-specific permission :·) - all rights to original reserved to source]


The late Harold H. (Hal) Carstens, founder and publisher of Carstens Publications, Inc., best known to us for its three hobby magazines, Railroad Model Craftsman, Railfan & Railroad, and Flying Models magazines, was a doughboy in WWII; he favored me with two photos of him before he got into the hobby publishing business:

HHC Grant 44 HHC Manila 45
(Cropped thumbnails - click on pictures for full, larger images)
[photos courtesy H. H. Carstens - all rights reserved]

The one (left) is of him on bivouac in March 1944 at Camp Grant, which was near Rockford, Illinois at the confluence of the Rock & Kishwaukee Rivers.  "It was bitchy cold with the winds off Lake Michigan."  The other (right) was taken circa 1945 in Manila, Philippine Islands.

That smile hadn't changed one bit!

Hal also found (ca. May 2003) this amazing old photo of arch-bar-trucked Carstens Products car C.P.C.X. 109:

Carstens Prods 109
(Thumbnail image - click on picture for larger image)
[cropped from photo courtesy H. H. Carstens - all rights reserved]

Just look at that odd offset door location!  Hal says it is a standard gauge, double-sheathed refrigerator car.  Does anyone have more info. on this car or the company?

He didn't know of any "Berliner" cars; see Berliner Bier (beer) cars.


TROLLEYS

(moved from BHRA page 10 Feb 2005)

This will alienate me forever from the hobby but ALL "modern" so-called "trolley" cars (and especially the San Francisco cable cars), are NOT "trolley" cars at all!  They all are powered by overhead wires (or catenary) contacted by poles or pantagraphs, or by underground wires contacted by shoes (or are pulled by cables).

True "trolley" cars were powered from overhead wires but the contact was made by a tiny cart (the "trolley" or "trawler') {t}rolling along the wires on small metal wheels, and the power from the wires ran through the wheels to the cart to a flexible wire cable (or cables) hanging down from the trolley to the car roof or end.

Actually, I suppose a trolley could consist of a single wheel or two wheels in a yoke, hanging from a single wire, but I've never seen any such that I recall.

Since the demise of the "trolley" car, the Brits have called their electric streetcars "tramcars" or "trams".

So now you know.  Go on, hate me. - The Master Nitpicker.


Staten Island RR

Speaking of trolleys, did you see the trackless one on the preceding page, under Oddities, the Staten Island trackless trolley?  Well, there was (and may yet be again) a Staten Island Railroad.  That is NOT the Staten Island Railway, which is a part of the MTA's NYC Transit ("subway") System, nor the SIRT (Staten Island Rapid Transit, the SIR's predecessor to 1994).  Rather, it is a serious, very old (ex-B&O) freight railway spun off by CSX to NY City.  It will once again serve the "Chemical Coast" of SI, running eight miles from the New York Container Terminal at Howland Hook, the Department of Sanitation’s Fresh Kills Transfer Facility, and two industriies, and connecting with the mainland across the Arthur Kill lift bridge, which is being rehabbed.

The folks at the (Long Island) Syosset Scrapbook, who have shared many great shots with me, sent me four old photos, for which they have no provenance, showing SIRR ALCo S-2 switchers #485 and #487 and crewmen:

SIRR#487/1

SIRR#487/2

SIRR#487/3

SIRR#487/4
[photos courtesy Syosset Scrapbook - all rights reserved]

Now, can anyone tell us all about the locos and the crewmen?  Bill Russell came right in (04 Apr 05) with the info. that they were S-2s, part of a 1944 group, SIRR #482-489, which were renumbered to B&O 9026-33 when the B&O consolidated their roster, so we now know the photos are from 1944 or later.  The tank cars in the background might help experts date them even closer.


John C. La Rue, Jr., has a collection of almost 30,000 RR photos in his collection (of which some 1,500 are of the PRR - see a photo of PRR boxcab A6 #3905 from his collection on my PRR boxcabs page); he can be reached at:

27491 Duvernay Drive
Bonita Springs, Florida  34135-6029
Tel.:  239-992-8802
E-mail: MOFWCABOOSE@aol.com.



Steam lovers, see my Science and Technology page!  Ah, the power of steam!

There is an incredible simulation program by Charlie Dockstadter on steam valve gear available on the Alaska Live Steamers VALVE GEAR ON THE COMPUTER page.


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