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S. Berliner, III
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- The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had
been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective
31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything. Everything's saved but
all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand. See my
sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.
S. Berliner, III's
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Schnabel Railroad Car
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{and these are mostly only thumbnails, at that!}
NOTE: I regret that some of my internal links refuse to work; if they don't, please click "Back" and scroll.
This page was particularly hard hit by image loss; see PROBLEM on my Contact page.
Schnabel Car Loading Technique.
Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved to Continuation Page, 04 Dec 99).
Schnabel References (moved to Continuation Page 1 on 14 Sep 02).
Road/Highway Schnabels - moved to Road Loads page 16 Mar 00.
More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car CEBX 800.
(moved here from Schnabel Continuation Page 2 on 09 Jan 2002)
Mammoet/ETARCO Mammoth Rail Loads.
CEBX-800 Drawing (NOT!)
Schnabel References (moved from main schnabel page 1 on 14 Sep 02).
More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car CEBX 800.
(moved to Schnabel Continuation Page 0 on 09 Jan 2002)
Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved from Main Page, 04 Dec 99).
(06 Feb 2012)
(06 Feb 2012)
Mammoet/ETARCO Mammoth Road Loads, plus
just scroll away.
Danly Press
Miller Transfer
Something has to lift these giant loads; see Big Cranes.
Jump to SB,III's RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of RR links
and to SB,III's MODEL RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of model RR links (yea, verily, forsooth!).
If this subject interests you, you must also see Tom Daspit's site, linked below!
* - Spelling of the Name: SCHNABEL vs. SCHNABLE - "Schnabel" is the KORREKT spelling! It is the German word for "beak", which I originally thought referred to the beak-shaped loading arms, but now know was the name of the German inventor of the design ca. 1930 or so. I don't know where or when I started using "Schnable", but it was wrong and I don't mind admitting my error.
If I ever find my original CE and Krupp materials (referred to below) and
they show "SCHNABLE" (however unlikely), I'll have to correct this
back again!
Bob MacLeod, who lives(ed?) up Sasketchewan way, took these pictures of CEBX 800 "in Pilot Butte, about 7 miles east of Regina, where the {Co-Op} upgrader was built. I was shooting about as fast as I could compose the pictures with a Pentax SpF 35 mm camera. They were running at a fair speed for the first load through. I guess they had built up some confidence in the trip. They arrived and then they were gone real quick. I missed the following units as there wasn't as much hoopla as for the first.":

(All photos R. MacLeod - all rights reserved.)
(09 Mar 2011)

(All photos R. MacLeod - all rights reserved.)
[My thanks to Tom Daspit, who backed up these images better than I did
and thus allowed me to restore them!]
(moved here from Schnabel Page 2 on 09 Jan 2002)
Here are Jim Banner's photos of the ABB 72-wheel CEBX 800 toting a 35.080m (111' 93/4") reactor vessel on 05
Jan 1991 in Saskatoon, Sasketchewan (Canada). Sure looks like the TransAlta car to me!
Part of the confusion on this car is because I had it mislabelled as a 36-wheel car instead of a 36-axle car, with 72
wheels! There is only one such car in the world; Krupp/Combustion Engineering/ABB CEBX 800 .
The first shot is a composite panorama made up of six (6) or seven (7) photos assembled and running a whopping 558,631Kb! So don't be in any hurry
to click on the thumbnail; I have split it into three sections for your convenience, the A2 (left on the picture) car (81,033Kb), the load (211,217Kb), and the A1
(right) car (117,335). Next is Jim's view of the right car (143,865Kb), then a closeup of the left load arm (142,924Kb), the load inching through a through-truss
bridge (160,935Kb), and finally a closeup of the center of the load:
[I'm having trouble with some of these image links;
Then here's a detail of the A1 (right) load arm showing the ABB and Krupp logos:More about 72-Wheel CEBX 800
please bear with me while I sort them out.]

(1991 photos courtesy of Jim Banner - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on the pictures for larger images.]

The ABB logos replace the original CE (Combustion Engineering - hence, CEBX) logos.
The third and last shots were taken to document the A2 (left) load arm and load stencilling, so I have provided blowups here for your convenience:
The A2 (left) load arm reads:
(in a circle):
EXCEEDS
PLATE
F
CEBX 800
* CAPY 1779260 LS
* LD LMT 1779260
LT WT 740890 NEW 9-80 {*}
while the load reads (below the tarp):
GROSS WEIGHT : 634,200 kg {or 834?#}
MEASUREMENT : L x W x H (MM) {sic*}
34M.080 x 4M.920 x 5M.200.
MADE IN JAPAN
THE JAPAN STEEL WORKS. LTD.
Strange sort of train, with a caboose/cabin car/hack at each end, but the left one is a rider car and the engine is to it's left, beyond an old heavyweight passenger car.
Bill says it was 40 below (°C or °F?)
[Ha, ha! - it's the one place on the thermometer where they are exactly equal!]
and that the conductor later told him they had the engine fitted with special electronic controls which could inch it along at as little as 1/10
mile per hour.
Note that this car has load members between the ends, under the load, so it is technically a through-well flat car in this configuration; so who's quibbling?
Incidentally, the ratings above mean that the car is rated to carry a 1,779,260 pound (889.63 ton) load with a light weight of 790,890 pounds (395.445 tons - huh?). Krupp/CE's original 1980 nominal rating was for a 800-ton load plus 40 tons per light ½-car, or 880 tons fully loaded(!), i.e.: 1,600,000 pounds load, 160,000 pounds light, and 1,760,000 pounds loaded.
The load measures 34.080m x 4.920m x 5.200m = 109' 41/8" long x 15' 9½" wide x 16' 8¼" high.
* - So, what's the LT WT mean? Decimal point error? Ditto the Japanese dimension unit - MM - hardly millimeters; try CM - centimeters!
# - The load at (either) 634,200Kg (or 834,200Kg) = 1,395,240 pounds/697.62 tons (or 1,835,240 pounds/917.62 tons - I vote for the former).
Lest you list me looney, the A1 and A2 designations are from Krupp/CE:
[The flags are the Canadian flag/le drapeau Canadien, an American one, blue Husky Oil flags (with a stylized Husky
dog - Husky is the Canadian oil company which runs the upgrader at Lloydminister Saskatchewan where the reactor vessel was being shipped), the green and yellow flag
of Saskatchewan (the wheat sheaves represent agriculture, their major industry, the yellow symbolizes ripening wheat fields in the fall, and the green represents
"bring money" - their taxes are high and it is expensive to keep warm up there when it is 45° below; the animal is either a stylized lion, or possibly a gopher that
stayed on the highway too long, the flower is supposed to be a Tiger Lily, the official flower of Saskatchewan, but somehow the leaves ended up looking more like marijuana!)]
{If you detect a wee bit or irony there, it's from Saskatoon, not New York!}
Hey, schnabel fan(atic)s, you'd better enjoy this coverage;
it's using up a staggering amount of server memory!
- Tom Daspit was in the Chicago area, went up to Duluth on a Friday afternoon (05 May 00), and found CEBX 800 parked on two sidings (it was unloaded and split) about 50' from Lake Superior; these are what he calls "teasers"{!}:

(05-06 May 2000 photos courtesy of Tom Daspit - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on the pictures for larger images.]
Some guys have all the luck! I was up there in Aug 99 and didn't see it (sour grapes). Thanks, Tom!
Tom now (Aug 00) has the rest of these photos (he took a lot - three rolls worth - surprise!) up on his site.
Next, along came Bill Tokaruk of Regina, Sasketchewan, with a completely different series of pictures of CEBX 800 from the Co-op Upgrader site in Regina in Jan 1986 and from the Bi-Provincial Upgrader site in Lloydminster in Jan 1991:
(Jan 86 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
CEBX 800 being moved to the unloading area of the Co-op Upgrader site in Regina, Jan 1986.
(Jan 86 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
The operators cab (one located on each half of the schnabel car), outside Regina, Jan 1986:
(Jan 86 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
CEBX 800 being spotted under the gantry crane at Lloydminster, Jan 1991:
(Jan 91 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
The reactor parked under the specially-constructed crane at the Bi-Provincial Upgrader in Lloydminster, Jan. 1991:
(Jan 91 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
Half the schnabel car after the reactor was unloaded at Lloydminster, Jan 1991 (count them - nine trucks - 36 wheels!):
(Jan 91 photo courtesy of Wm. Tokaruk - all rights reserved)
(2x4-axle, not 2x6 - 11 Nov 02)

Both sets are from Michael Baier's (MiBa) fantastic German-language site.
(I always wondered what MiBa meant!)
Uh, oh! The above meaning of "MiBa" is correct as used here, but it is also the name of a German model RR magazine, Miniaturmodellbahnen!
Also, Kibri came out with an HO model of Uaai #687.9 [their #16502, a 20-axle {2x(5+5)} unit], and a road version:

Tom Daspit was watching TV 03 Jan 03 when he thought he saw a Schnabel car; it was "Enemy at the Gate" and there IS a Schnabel car plain as day
about 15 minutes before the end, just before Ed Harris gets killed. Tom thinks it may be the Preußenelektra car.
Mammoet
Mammoet/ETARCO/van Seumeren
(Dutch for Mammoth)
On May 23, 2000, van Seumeren Holland B.V. announced the purchase of the Mammoet group of companies from Royal Nedlloyd N.V.; van Seumeren claims to be the world leader in international heavy lifting and crane services. Mammoet is claimed as a leader in international heavy ground transport and heavy-lift shipping. Van Seumeren claims to be the major shareholder of ETARCO (formerly Engineering and Transportation and Rigging Company Limited), which is a North American (Canada) based company specializing in multi-modal transportation and rigging services. The new company will go forward under the name and logo of MAMMOET. All of this bodes well for those of us who like such activities and models of such equipment.
Here, from the ETARCO site are a group of images of Schnabel and related rail cars, starting with an 86.5 ton 18' diameter dryer shell moving on a depressed center railcar with double-end overhang and a 174 ton generator on a 12-axle railcar at Halifax ready for shipment to Fort McMurray, Alberta:



Many of these loads are also seen on road vehicles at Mammoet/ETARCO mammoth road loads.
I ran across the term "MAFI" in relation to container freight and checked it out; guess how heavy loads get from the erecting floor to trailers or railcars? MAFI Transport-Systeme GmbH of Tauberbischofshein, Germany (just north of Stuttgart), where they have an English version; take a look!
Here's another GREAT link; the site of J. Supor & Son Trucking & Rigging Co., Inc., headquartered in Harrison, New Jersey. Road and rail and heavy, HEAVY, HEAVY! You just have to go there and navigate the site for dozens of fabulous pix!
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