INDEX

On the main Schnabel page:

On the preceding Schnabel Continuation Page 0:

On this Schnabel Continuation Page 1:

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 2:

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 3:

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 4:

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 5:

On the Schnabel CEBX 800 Page:

On the Road Loads page:

On Road Loads Page 2:

On the Road Loads Page 3:

Something has to lift these giant loads; see Big Cranes.

Jump to SB,III's RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of RR links

  and to SB,III's MODEL RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of model RR links (yea, verily, forsooth!).

Krupp Schnabel Brochure

"Photos: Historisches Archiv Krupp, Essen, Germany."
(images from Krupp brochure, by special permission - All Rights Reserved)
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{Please note that, on all three images, the brochure format has been altered to greatly reduce white space to conserve precious bandwidth;
Krupp graphic artists had made very much more harmonious page layouts!.}

Special appreciation must be expressed to the Krupp Historical Archive for furnishing, and permitting reproduction of, these fantastic images.

To honor this very special courtesy, I have used lots of memory to bring these images to you with the photos, diagram, and data uncut.

In addition, I also have this half-car erection drawing of the Krupp Soviet 32-axle, 500-metric-ton car, which shows many details applicable as well to the other cars:

(source lost - I will remedy this as soon as found)
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CEBX-800 DRAWING (NOT!)

(ca. 1970 Drawing by and © 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
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THE ONE LITTLE DETAIL!  Tom Daspit, without the fanaticism I exhibit, dispassionately looked at the @#$%&* drawing and immediately brought me crashing back to reality: "Great drawing, but this is not of the CEBX 800.  There are not enough axles, on{ly} 22, not 36.  This is either of the WECX 102 or 301 built by McDowell-Wellman Engineering Company for Westinghouse.  Look at the lifting and shifting area where the schnabel arm connects to the span booster.  On the CEBX there are two parts to the schnabel arm, and on the WECX there is only one.  This is an extremely good drawing of one of the Westinghouse cars."

Coises!  Ferled again!  Tom is, of course, quite right; the drawing is the one I made for the WECX 102 or 301 mock-up shown on my main schnabel page and reproduced here:

(photo taken 03 Nov 99 by and © 1999 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)

My, did I ever get excited when I found that drawing!  Well, Tom is too kind but it's no mean drawing in its own right, even if it isn't the one I sought.

Schnabel Linkages (linkages, NOT links to other pages or sites) - this is awkward because I don't want to spend too much time on this but I've been asked many times to explain how the Schnabel arms work, how the load shifts, and such.  I've already shown how the arms swing to pick up and drop a load on the first Schnabel page (SCHNABEL CAR LOADING TECHNIQUE).  What I've done here is to take the RICA and eisenbahn magazine illustrations and combine and doctor them to show how loads are attached to Schnabel cars:

(24 Apr 2005 drawing by S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Next, we address how the load arms on the more elaborate cars adjust for curving and for shifting.  First, I use half a Krupp diagram to indicate that the vertical and horizontal movements occur about separate pivot points; in this way, the functions can be controlled separately.  Hydraulic cylinders (or other actuators) can move the arms up and down independantly of the angular displacement from curving:

(24 Apr 2005 drawing by S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

(24 Apr 2005 drawing by S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

I'm running out of room on the other Schnabel pages, and don't really want to create another, so I'm sticking Bruce S. Chamberlain's pictures of his LEGO brick CEBX 800 (from his Brickshelf Gallery page) here; it's not a scale model but is so ingenious that it well deserves coverage here (and links on my Schnabel Continuation page 2 (after the Model List), hobby, and model RR pages):

(Photos courtesy of B. S. Chamberlain, by permission - all rights reserved)
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That arch bridge is something in its own right, so I show it in full.

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(Photos courtesy of B. S. Chamberlain, by permission - all rights reserved)
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[Some images cropped.]

(Photos courtesy of B. S. Chamberlain, by permission - all rights reserved)

(Photos courtesy of B. S. Chamberlain, by permission - all rights reserved)

(26 Nov 03 photofake by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Bruce kindly sent more detail shots; the arms and load ends showing the black connector pegs, the underside and inside of the ends of the arms (again showing the pegs), the unloaded car, and truck detail (showing the reversed bolstering):

(Cropped 03 Dec 03 from photos by B. S. Chamberlain - all rights reserved)

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(Photo courtesy of P. Ziegler - all rights reserved)

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LIRR Loads

(Jan 68 photos by and © 1968/2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
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(Jan 68 photos by and © 1968/2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
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23 Jan 2006 - PRR #470249 was specially built in 1963 to carry a large spherical bearing for the 140' radio telescope at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory at Green Bank, West Virginia; more information on this car and that load is sought.

@ - the car's not shown in Maywald!

SCHNABEL (and related) REFERENCES

Tom Daspit's fabulous site, noted above.

Horst Felbmayr GmbH's fantastic heavy-lift and -transport site at

See also Paul Bowers's "The Schnabel Webpage" (with other over-sized load coverage).

The Railway Industrial Clearance Association of North America (R.I.C.A.) site, noted above.
{Revised URL as of 01 Sep 00}

Original CE and Krupp materials (also referred to above).

"Mammoth Reactor Rides Southern's Rails", (staff), TIES (The Southern Railway System Magazine), January-February 1970, Front Cover and pp. 4-6.

"How to Tote 600 Tons", David H. Hamley, TRAINS, July 1973, pp. 20-24, Kalmbach Publishing Corp., Milwaukee.

    Hamley's article is superb, although it pre-dates CEBX 800; it is mostly about WECX 102,
    with some coverage of 102, 200, 201, and 202, and photos of 102, 101, 201, and 200 and
    specifications of 101 and 102, which were completed on 01 Ju 1967 and 10 Nov 1969 at costs of
    $550,000 and $650,000 (approximately), with load limits of 523 and 600 tons, and light weights
    of 529K# and 516K#, and stretch 119' 2" (159' 0") and 135' 7" (175' 1") empty (max. loaded), on
    20 and 22 axles, all respectively.  Those axles sat in eight trucks; 6-4-4-6+6-4-4-6 for #101
    and 6-6-4-6+6-4-6-6 for #102.

    Just for laughs, CEBX 800's trucks are arranged as 4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4+4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4 (really)!
        Talk about a centipede; it's more like a millipede!

    More accurately, CEBX 800 is arranged this way:

    <[(4-4)-(4-4)]-[(4-4)-{(4-4)-4}]>+<[{4-(4-4)}-(4-4)]-[(4-4)-(4-4)]> (or some such)!!!

"German Railway Guns in Action", Joachim Englemann, Armor No. 15, Squadron/Signal Publications, 1976.

"Classic Freight Cars - The Series", Vol. 6, Loaded Flats and Gondolas", Henry Maywald, H & M Productions, Flushing, NY, 1984, ISBN 1-882608-06-2.

    Although miscaptioned in some cases, this is an invaluable reference, with many heavy
    duty cars of all sorts in color, including the FD2 Depressed-Center Flat, Queen Mary,
    as PC #766163 on page 35 and PRR #470245 on page 36 and schnabels GEX #40010
    on page 61, WECX #301* empty on page 62 and as a drop-center well flat with
    tension and compression members holding a mis-labelled reactor vessel on page 63,
    and WECX #200 in tan (dirty white?) at Long Island City, NY, and in red at Pueblo
    on page 64, plus a giant turbine on a huge USDoT over-the-road trailer
    on the inside back cover.

    * - miscaptioned as "the largest car with the greatest capacity of anything on America's rails".

Photo (and blowup detail) accompanying "Interview with Claire I. Clugh", KEYSTONE, Volume 29, Number 2, Summer 1996, Pages 14-15, PRRT&HS, FD2 #470245 in Apr 1952 (with Mr. Clugh and another in front for scale - WOW!).

"TTX Heavy-Duty 12-Axle DSH-45-Class QTTX Flat Car", James Panze, RAILROAD MODEL CRAFTSMAN, March 1999, pp. 86-90, Carstens Publications, Inc., Newton, New Jersey (with photos, drawings, and roster).

"Scratchbuilding an HO Heavy-Duty QTTX Flat Car", Jim Panza, RAILROAD MODEL CRAFTSMAN, March 1999, pp. 91-95, Carstens Publications, Inc., Newton, New Jersey (with photos).

See also Viktor Schiffer's fantastic (mostly-European) freight car site auf Deutsch and in English.

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