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note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.


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Schnabel Railroad Car
Continuation Page 6

RAILROADING



SCHNABEL RAILROAD CARS

(also misspelled "Schnable"* -
by me!)

and other GIANT FREIGHT CARS

(with digressions to highway uses)

[continued]

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{and these are mostly only thumbnails, at that!}

[BIG LOADS - BIG PICTURES!]

NOTE:  I regret that some of my internal links refuse to work; if they don't, please click "Back" and scroll.


INDEX

On the main Schnabel page:

    Scroll away, plus these specifics -
    Schnabel Diagram.
    Schnabel Car Loading Technique.
    Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved to this Continuation Page 2 on 04 Dec 99).
    Schnabel References (moved to Continuation Page 1 on 14 Sep 2002).
    Road/Highway Schnabels - moved to Road Loads page 16 Mar 2000.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 0:

    72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car.
    More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car.
        (moved from Schnabel Continuation Page 2 on 09 Jan 2002)
    Mammoet/ETARCO Mammoth Rail Loads.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 1:

    Krupp Schnabel Brochure
    CEBX-800 Drawing (NOT!)
    Schnabel References (moved from main schnabel page 1 on 14 Sep 2002).

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 2:

    Scroll away, plus these specifics -
    More about 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car(s).
        (moved to Schnabel Continuation Page 0 on 09 Jan 2002)
    Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars (moved from Main Page, 04 Dec 1999).
    Schnabel Miscellany.

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 3:

    More Model Schnabel and other Giant Cars.
    Dave Allen's Concept Models Schnabel Kits. (moved to page 4 on 17 Jan 2005)

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 4:

    Schnabel Models - continued.
    Dave Allen's Concept Models Schnabel Kits. (moved here 17 Jan 2005)
    500-ton GEX 80003 - World's Largest Drop-Center Flat Car
        (and 450-ton GEX 80000 and 440-ton GEX 80002 Drop-Center Flat Cars). (25 Jul 2014)
    Kasgro KRL 204000/1/2 20-axle 500-ton Drop-Center Flat Cars. (25 Jul 2014)
    Bachmann HO Schnabel Models.
    Nisco Steel move in China. (moved here from Cont. Page 3 on 08 Dec 2005)

On the Schnabel Continuation Page 5 (06 Feb 2012):

    Schnabel Car Geometry.
    Even More Schnabel Car Models.
    Schnabel Car Model Geometry. (15 Mar 2014)
    Even More Schnabel Car Models.
    Mark Runyan's 800-801 Models (24 Aug 2012).

On this Schnabel Continuation Page 6 (06 Feb 2012):

    Drop Center Flats Cars in Erie. (11 Dec 2014)
    16-Axle GE Heavy-Duty Flat Cars.
    GE, Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant. (13 Dec 2014)
    MUD FLAPS on an HD Flat? (13 Dec 2014)
    Siemens (Westinghouse), Charlotte, NC, generator, wind turbine, and gas turbine plant. (13 Dec 2014)
    GSMRRC 20-axle Schnabel HO Car Model.

On the Felbermayr Schnabel Car Page:

    {Unindexed to date; please scroll down}   new(21 Apr 2015)

On the Schnabel CEBX 800 Page:

    CEBX 800 in Houston - 28 Mar 2005.

On the Schnabel WECX 800 Page:   new (11 Jan 2013)

    Load Problem.   new (11 Jan 2013)

On the Schnabel WECX 801 Page:   new (07 Jul 2012)

    A Second 72-wheel 880-Ton Schnabel Car.   new (07 Jul 2012)

On the Schnabel RR Car WECX 801 Continuation Page 1:

    Further WECX 801 Updates   new (11 Dec 2014)

On the Road Loads page:

    Road/Highway Schnabels - material moved from main RR Schnabel Car page,
    MOVING LOCO #833
    MOVING COKE DRUMS in ALBERTA

On Road Loads Page 2:

    MOVING THE GLENWOOD TANKS
    Mammoet Mammoth Road Loads, plus
    just scroll away.

On the Road Loads Page 3:

    Danly Press
    Miller Transfer
    Road Load Models (moved from page 2 on 01 Mar 05)

Something has to lift these giant loads; see Big Cranes.


Jump to SB,III's RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of RR links

  and to SB,III's MODEL RAILROAD Page for a goodly set of model RR links (yea, verily, forsooth!).


SCHNABEL and other
giant RAILROAD CARS

(and highway variants)

[continued]


If this subject interests you, you must also see Tom Daspit's site, linked below!

* - Spelling of the Name:  SCHNABEL vs. SCHNABLE - "Schnabel" is the KORREKT spelling!  It is the German word for "beak", which I originally thought referred to the beak-shaped loading arms, but now know was the name of the German inventor of the design ca. 1930 or so.  I don't know where or when I started using "Schnable", but it was wrong and I don't mind admitting my error.


Drop Center Flats Cars in Erie - Here are some shots of heavy Smit transformers that arrived in Erie, Pennsylvania, by ship earlier this year (2014) preparing to head out on heavy-duty drop center flat cars along East Bayfront Parkway:   new(11 Dec 2014)

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Xformers on drop center flats in Erie, PA - 2014
(J. Rob images courtesy of N. Clark - all rights reserved)
{Click on thumbnailed pictures for larger images}

Note that the middle car is Kasgro "Red-'n-Ready" #300300.  These units were probably made by Royal SMIT Transformers B. V. in Nijmegen, the Netherlands.

Let's "wander" over there via satellite and see what we can find:   new(12 Dec 2014)

First we find East Bayfront Parkway and then discover a spur running north across Mill Creek, along Harbor Basin, to the northwest end of a peninsula opposite Crystal Point on Presque Isle:

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East Bayfront Parkway, Erie, PA - left | Spur up along Harbor Basin - right

And just look at what sits on sidings off that spur!

Next we zoom in on the upper siding - sure looks like three wrapped transformers - and on the lower siding - sure looks like two big drop-center flats, eh?

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Harbor Basin north of Mill Creek, Erie, PA
Wrapped Wind Turbine Nacelles - left | Drop-Center Flat Cars - right

For a mo', we thought those loads were wrapped gas turbines or transformers or wind turbine nacelles on pallets (GE makes both type of turbines in Greenville).  Nathan Clark assures us that they are indeed the same high-voltage, shell-form, Smit transformers shown above (count the reinforcing ribs on the top in both photos; the bolted-over ports where the high-voltage insulators will be attached are even visible in the same places in each photo).  Thanks, Nathan!  Whatever they are, they are definitely NOT on the rails.   rev(12 and 13 Dec 2014)

Amazing what turns up when one looks; such fun!


Tom Daspit provides us with a surprise:   new(12 Dec 2014)

Wanna see a new GE 16-axle flat car used in support of GE's new 9HA gas turbine?

mystery

Here it is:

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GE 9HA Gas Turbine on SIXTEEN-Axle Heavy-Duty Flat Car
(cropped from image courtesy of T. Daspit - all rights reserved)

Wanna see the WHOLE thing?  Just click HERE!.

surprise!

Not what you thought,eh?

Per Tom, this car is used to move the gas turbines at GE's gas turbine plant at 300 Garlington Rd, Greenville, South Carolina, from the manufacturing area to the test area.  Tom says "this flat car has the smallest wheels and the biggest axles of anything that I have seen".  Amen to that!

He also notes that "this location is where the two GEGX 20 axle flat cars are based".

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant

Let's get in closer:

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant

Tom points out that GE installed a turntable, perhaps the newest one in the US in rail service, leading into a new test building where they have been testing the new 9HA turbine.

He guesses is that the turntable is about 80' long - let's see:

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GE Gas Turbine Plant Turntable

Looks more like 90' to me.  Regardless, thanks once again, Tom!

Now, let's revisit that overall view of the GE plant and zero in on the "main line" rail car and load over towards the west end:

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant Close-up

How 'bout them lil' apples?

Whoops, dearie!  I seem to have forgotten to note the other big flat cars at the upper left in the aerial view above.  Hmm, wonder what's further off to the west?  So, it's back to the satellite:

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant (Western End)

Oh, my!  Look at all those big flats scattered all over the place!  Here are the ones out to the west, closer to the main:

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant (West Close-up)

And here are the ones in between that I forgot to note earlier:

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GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant (Center Close-up)

Oh, hey!  Lookie at the upper left corner - dollars to doughnuts that's a GE 25-tonner, the same kind of yard goats that putter around Kasgro in New Castle, Pennsylvania!

MUD FLAPS on an HD Flat? - Speaking of GE and their 16-axle, 450-ton GEGX 21154 and 21155 depressed-center flat cars, built in 1997 by the Atlas Car Division of Bliss-Salem, Inc., and, no, I'm not about to try to duplicate Tom Daspit's entire huge site here, Tom shows this amazing picture, taken by Sarvis Chip Hughes, of MUD FLAPS on the back of the 21155:   new(13 Dec 2014)

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Mud Flaps on GEGX 21155 at GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant
(cropped from S, C. Hughes image from T. Daspit - all rights reserved)

This is for real!  Chip says the mud flaps are there because they ride the front platform on their rider car coupled right behind the GE flat and the flaps help keep down the junk thrown up by the wheels and cut down on spray from wet wheels in the rain.

This aerial sleuthing is great fun!  Let's continue apace at GE in Greenville, expanding on information from Tom Daspit and Nathan Clark.   new(13 Dec 2014)

GE has an old S2 that they use at Greenville:

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GE S2 and HD Flat Cars at GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant
(cropped from T. Daspit image - all rights reserved)

See both GEGX 21154 and 21155 depressed-center flat cars and their riding car (ex-caboose).

The wind turbine generator nacelles are clear in this photo:

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GE 25-ton and HD Flat Cars at GE Greenville, SC, Gas Turbine Plant
(cropped from T. Daspit image - all rights reserved)

So is the GE 25-tonner up topside.

Next, let's turn our attention to the Siemens (Westinghouse) plant at Shopton Road West and Westinghouse Boulevard in Charlotte, North Carolina, happy hunting ground of Schnabel cars KWUX 101 and 102.  They make generators and wind turbines at the Charlotte plant, and, in the a huge new addition, gas turbines as well.   new(13 Dec 2014)

[The views which follow are "enhanced" satellite views; I've moved the scale bars
and some of the road callouts.]

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Siemens Charlotte, NC, Plant

You can't make out much at this altitude so we'll zoom in a bit. 

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Siemens Charlotte, NC, Plant

Starts to look interesting, but still not close enough; we'll have to split the image - north and south:

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Siemens Charlotte, NC, Plant

Aha!  Now, we're getting somewhere.  You can start to make out all sorts of big stuff scattered around on a plethora of trackage.  There's also some really tiny stuff; more on those later.

First, let's see what's on those northern-most (curved) tracks:

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Guess that's worth a closer look:

NEnd20'

Ach, what nize toys, you haff, Herr Siemens!

Now, let's examine more closely the south end of the property, from those blue-tarped loads down to the turnout:

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All sorts of areas of interest!

Again, even more closely:

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Oh, yes; indeed!

O. K., so now we'll wander half-way up to the middle:

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What's that at the cross-over track?  Zooming in:

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Looking closely by the cross-over track, we find what sure appears to be a GE 44-tonner and a riding car:

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GE?  At Westinghouse?  Unless, of course, it's an ancient twin Mack - highly unlikely to still be in active industrial service.  Plymouth?  Whitcomb?  Brookville?  Whiting?  Anything but GE!

Dropping back down to that interesting area south between the buildings, we find lotsa good stuff, including a lot of heavy highway multi-axle haulers:

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Focusing in on the latter:

RoadLoads(close)

Up at the north end of the trackage between the buildings is this big multitruck flat with heavy cribbing:

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You know, there's an odd little blob just south-east of those blue tarps; better look again:

Trackmobile

Darned if that isn't a Trackmobile!

Hey!  Guess what!  Look at what the Trackmobile is pulling (or pushing)!  That's 22-axle Schnabel car KWUX 102!  And here I've been doing just about that on my HO layout all along with my nifty yellow Whiting Trackmobile (from BLI) and various giant Schnabel and drop-center flat cars and thinking how ridiculous it looked!  I even have a similar "scene" on my Animated GIFs Page 2, with 20-axle KWUX 101 and a generic (non-GE) 44-tonner:

   

[I rather doubt anyone could tell this generic 44-tonner from a GE 45-tonner at one pixel (and with no flailing side rods)!
Oh, yeah?
  ]!

Tom looked at Siemens Charlotte obliquely:

Loads,RidingCars,Trackmobile

Sure enough - a Trackmobile!


The Grand Strand Model Railroaders, Inc., of Myrtle Beach, SC, posted a video of an HO model of a 20-axle Schnabel car built by a member which is so meticulously modeled that I wanted to feature it here.   new(16 Dec 2014)

[I asked permission to post the pictures which follow;
they are screen shots taken from the GMSRRC video.]

In the opening moments, we first see the car rolling along the front edge of the layout

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1. - It is very possibly modeled after TEXX 1135 (formerly CPOX 820); I base that on the unique diagonal reinforcing angle on the sides of the load arms.  As it passes in front of the panning camera, we see it again:
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2. - Lifting the load to show how the car is assembled:
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3. - Lifting the left load arm reveals an elegant pivot pin socket:
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4. - The pivot pin itself pivots horizontally to accomodate changes in track elevation:
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5. - Removing the primary (upper) span bolster reveals the neat lower bolster construction:
GSMRRCSchn5

6. - Removing the outer intermediate span bolster:
GSMRRCSchn6

7. - Inverting the inner (lower) span bolster to show the truck mounting screws:
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(I could not get a sharp image)

8. - Replacing the primary (upper) span bolster:
GSMRRCSchn8

9. - The meticulous construction extends to the load, a transformer built hollow with a removable top to hold two 9-volt batteries as weighting:

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Now THAT is an elegant model!



I'm NOT depressed, just feeling flat, sort of like I'm in a well,
as if my center had dropped, through, heavy,
split and loaded down - too much on my plate.
I need to shift my load and inch through, if my plate has clearance.
Only joking!


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