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S. Berliner, III
Consultant in Ultrasonic Processing
"changing materials with high-intensity sound"

[consultation is on a fee basis]

Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher

note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

S. Berliner, III's


Z-Scale Model Railroad Continuation Page 2


NOTE:  Page size was limited by HTML to some 30kB;
thus, I had been forced to add new pages just for Z-Scale, more Z-scale, and articles about Z-scale.


The internal links, which work fine on my home page and others, don't seem to work here!  I'm working on it, but haven't a clue; I even just copied the working links over and they don't work here.  So, scroll away!

This index has been truncated to save space; see the full index on the Z Index Page.

On the main Z-Scale page:

    Z-Scale Narrow Gauge (really)
(moved to the Sub-Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
    Scale and Gauge
    Scale Conversion Table
    Z-Scale Miscellany
    Z-Scale Wiring Conventions
    Z-Scale Repair and Hobby Shops

On the Sub-Z-Scale Page :

    Z-Scale Narrow Gauge (really)
(moved from the main Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
    Z-Scale Meter Gauge
    Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains!
(moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)
    1:900 Scale - Tiniest Trains!
(moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)

On the previous Z-Scale Page 1:

    Zictionary Part 1 ("A" - "M") - lotZ of wordZ
(moved from Page 4 on 31 Jul 00 and split on 28 May 01)!

On this Continuation Page 2:

    Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal RR in Z
    Z-SCALE DIMENSIONS (with how to approximate a mile of track).
    The Scale Card
    Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains!
(moved to the Sub-Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
1:900 Scale - Tiniest Trains!
(moved to the Sub-Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
    Overton Coaches, Bobber, Crane and a Boxcab in Z! - plus other neat items.
    Wish List - some goodieZ I'd like and some I have,
like Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel and GN/WFEX Reefer,
Larry Hoff's Bobber Caboose and Crane, and
the V 32 Diesel-Compressed Air Boxcab 4-6-4T!
    M-T Z SP Moguls!

On the Z-Scale Continuation Page 3:

    Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
    Power - Volts, Amps, Watts for Z.

On the Z-Scale Continuation Page 4

    Some More Z (all the latest!),
including more on Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel and HomaBed's new Z roadbed.

On the new Z-Scale Continuation Page 5

Even More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.
Microscopic Z Accessories.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 6:
(a page of the Third Millennium):

V 32 001 Diesel Pneumatic in Z.
Yet More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 7:

And More Z
    8620 Well/Depressed Center/Schnabel Cars   new.gif (04 Jan 04)

On the Ztrack page:

    Ztrack Magazine

On the Z-Scale Articles page:

    Z-Scale Hell Gate Bridge.

See other indices on the Model Railroad
and on the Railroad pages.



Z-Scale model railroading, at an incredible 220 times smaller than life size, or slightly under half the size of the familiar HO scale, with rails only 6.5mm (~¼") apart, continued ...

Z scale is about 2½ times smaller than HO!  In Z scale, a scale ¼-mile is exactly (and only) 6 feet; in other words, a mile is only 24 feet!

Ztrack Magazine

The Newsletter for Z Scale Model Railroading

Ztrack now has a separate page of its own -

The BEDT in Z

Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal RR

See the separate BEDT page for the story of the BEDTRR

Starting with a paraphrase (rechronologized) of a letter to ZTrack on 04 Mar 92:

Speaking of 24', did you realize that a mile in Z is EXACTLY that#? - I never did until last week {this was in 1992} when I started planning out an exact Z-scale version of the Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad.  It should fit on two 3' modules, plus a 2-footer to represent the Domino sugar plant.  My friend's dad was Hugh Gerard (Jerry) Callaghan, a dour Scot who was the Chief Electrician of the BEDT.  The friend hung around the yard with him each Saturday as a teenager.  She was determined to include the Domino silos; old man Havemeyer used to come down to the BEDT yard to assure his best interests.  I've old maps and aerial photos to determine the trackage.

{# - see new tabulation of Z-Scale Dimensions, below}

Currently (18 Apr 92) looks like two 3' (by 2½') modules to cover from north to south and from the waterfront to Kent Avenue, plus a Domino module, plus several 1½' long wharves as add-ons.  Resultant "footprint" will be 8' long by 4' deep overall.

22 May 93 - Note:  all of above refers only to the BEDT's Kent Avenue yard.

05 Dec 93 - Can't find anything written up on number of turnouts on BEDT.  From xerocopied enlargement of USDI/GS Brooklyn Quadrangle map of 1967 (photorevised 1979 - didn't change trackage), as redrawn, there are 60 tracks and 59 turnouts {???}.  At $25 per manual turnout or $40 per solenoid-operated turnout {$25.50 and $45.50 in 1997!}, that could run from $1,475 to $2,360!  Not bloody likely!

02 Apr 98 Comment:  Sure doesn't look promising, unless some commercial firm underwrites it; Märklin evinced no interest in such a project (can't IMAGINE why not!).

See Z page 6 for BEDT #15 in Z.

Effective Date: 30 Jul 99
Original Date: 30 May 97

Z-Scale is 220:1.    1 mile = 24', exactly!

Z-ScaleZ-Scale  Z-ScaleZ-ScaleStd.
1220 (absolute)
1.38545mm0.054545"  0.3048m1'0.05"
13.8545mm0.545455" 3.048m10'½"
25mm0.984252"  5.50m18.04452'1"  ¼-tangent
25.4mm1"  5.588m18.33333'
27.5mm1.082677"  6.050m19.84908'1"
27.709mm1.0909"  6.096m20'
55mm2.165354" 12.1m39.69816'2-1/8"½-tangent
55.4182mm2.181818" 12.192m40'
108.6mm4.275591" 23.892m78.38583'turnout makeup
110mm4.330709" 24.2m79.39633'4-1/3" 1x-tangent
110.836mm4.363636" 24.384m80'
112.8mm4.440945" 24.818m81.41733'turnout makeup
220mm8.661417" 48.4m158.7927'8½" 2x-tangent
221.673mm8.727273" 48.768m160'
323mm12.71654" 71.060m233.1365' crossover radius
490mm19.29134"107.832.85744'19¼"turnout radius
660mm25.98425"145.2m447.5853'26" 6x-tangent
3' (36")½-mile
6' (72")¼-mile
7315.2mm24'1.60934km1 mile
7260mm23.81890'1.5972km5,240.16'<1 mile11 x 660mm
  55mm2.165354"12.1m   39.69816'  <40' 55mm
 [0.2mm  0.078740"44mm1.732284" difference (~1¾" actual, shy)]
7315mm23.99934'1.6093km5,279.86'1 mi. approximated by (11x660mm)+(1x55mm)
Z-Scale Z-ScaleZ-ScaleZ-ScaleStd.

The Scale Card

You might like to look at José Lopez, Jr.'s The Scale Card, for a most extensive discussion of scales.  The Scale Card offers both clear scale rules AND an exceedingly-clever clear credit-card-sized card to assist the model builder with purchasing and creating realistic scale railroad layouts, aircraft, ships, dollhouses, and/or dioramas.  The Scale Card can easily fit in your pocket or purse and features a real world 3" rule marked off in your scale and provides three figures: a six foot male, a five foot six inch female and a twenty-four inch one year old child.  The two adult figures also feature the maximum and minimum mean height for each.  The card uses a more intuitive means of gauging the accuracy of objects in a chosen scale.  It works best when determining if animals and plants will fit realistically in a given scale.  The card also include a unique graphic which directly determines circular diameters in scale measurements.  The Z ruler is 6" long.  A Scale Conversion Card, which fits a standard 3-hole ring binder is also offered.

I have mine!  They arrived 02 Jan 2003 and these are the kinds of tools that make one wonder how he or she ever got along without them!  Naturally, my scanner refused to work, so here's a quick snapshot of them; the smaller (full) circle on the card is exactly 3/4" (19.05mm), for reference on your screen:

Z Scale Card and Rule
Image of 1:220 (Z-scale) Card and Rule from The Scale Card

Note that the card has dimensions on both side of the lower left corner and that the 6" rule has both HO (1:87.1) and O (1:48) scales at the bottom edge.

[Technically, the "rule" (or "ruler") is not that at all; a rule rules straight lines (it is a "straightedge"), while a scale measures distance, but, as José himself pointed out, common usage rules (did I really say that?)!]

There is also a 12" ruler, which I am ordering, but I regret to announce that José notified readers of Ztrack Magazine with its Jul-Aug 2012 issue that he is closing his doors on 31 Dec 2012!  If you read this in time, place your orders soon!   new (11 Sep 2012)


Hey, Don Hammond with the half-giant-suitcase (the one that makes up the monster suitcase set with Nat "Bud" Taverna's) and the end case that allows it to run without Bud's) were featured in full color in a 10 Jan 1999 cover story, "Right on Track" by Peter Goodman, Staff Writer, on page B9 of Long Island's NEWSDAY, one of the Metro area's most influential newspapers!  Unfortunately, Goodman has the scale as 1/222 but, hey, it was good plug for Z at the Great South Bay Model Railroad Club show in the Freeport (Long Island) Recreation Center, on 10 Jan 1999!

Well, I went to the show (it was mobbed!) and there was Don in all his glory with not TWO, but THREE suitcases!  He's gone and built a 4' extender case!  He and Bud were both to be at the "Grumman" show in Bethpage (Long Island) on 23 Jan 1999; couldn't wait to see this monster up and running!  Well, Bud couldn't make it and Don was there with "only" his case-and-a-half!

WOW! - There is now a Z-scale boxcab model!
FR boxcab & hoppers
Image of development model from Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik
with FR Z-scale hopper cars (see below)!

FR Erie #20 Boxcab - Jun 1999
Image of first production model from Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik - note that the
symmetrical arrangement of the stacks has been corrected to the offset of the prototypes.

Much more on this model moved to my FR page at FR Boxcab Oil-Electric Locomotives.

In addition, Freudenreich is producing a Great Northern/Western Fruit Express 50' Wood Reefer, the first American reefer in Z!  As I am a GN/WFEX nut, I have a good bit of information on these cars, with pictures, at Great Northern/Western Fruit Express Reefers; however, here is FR's latest pre-production model (23 Jun 1999):

FR 50' GN/WFEX Reefer

More on this model and an RR-37 50' wooden reefer has been moved to the FR page under FR Freight Cars.

See also my BOXCABS page, et. seq.

On 15 Mar 1999, I received my NYC and N&W hoppers from Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik, together with a kit and decals/transfers{?} for an L&N car; oh, my!  These are GEMS!  They even include coal* loads; more about them to follow.

[* - Turns out, it represents used ballast (gray) and must be painted to represent coal.]

Freudenreich now (08 Dec 1999) has a Peabody (Coal Co.) version of the hopper.

OVERTON COACHES, BOBBER, and CRANE in Z-SCALE!   rev (25 Feb and 19 Nov 2015)

Larry Hoff of PORTLAND RAIL CAR (the guy that made the Z buses noted in Ztrack) had released four Z scale brass Overton "coaches" {sic) - actually a baggage car, a combine, a "business" car, and a coach (he called all of them coaches) with Micro-Trains or Märklin couplers and Märklin trucks, and a brass bobber caboose {I wanted it!  I still want it!} and was also working on a Brownhoist 25-ton crane and work car!


I regret to advise that on 28 Jan 2015 I heard from Lerry Hoff's son-in-law that
Larry had passed away in 2001 from cancer.

DISCLAIMER - I didn't know Larry and thus this was NOT an endorsement, but if you'll look at just one of the several pix he sent me (below), you might have wanted to visit his site.

Larry Hoff's Z-Scale Bobber
Larry Hoff's Z-Scale Bobber

I had to have been nuts or something, advertising a stranger's products,
but that bobber and crane are so exquisite that I put back the picture of the crane:

Z-Scale Crane & Bobber
Larry Hoff's Z-Scale Crane

I did some digging in my old site and found that the January/February 1998 issue of Ztrack Magazine featured Larry Hoff's Portland Railcar releasing Z Overton coaches and the bobber caboose.   added (19 Nov 2015)

Speaking of Brass and such in Z!

Did you see Micro-Trains' incredible SP 2-6-0 Mogul on page 55 of the October, 1998 Model Railroader?  It was shown in brass with a Vandy oil tender as SP Class M-6a in two versions but was also available with a coal tender as SP Class M-4 (see M-T's
Zloco page).  It was, however, listed at $499, which greatly limited its appeal to the less-affluent among us.  Well, now, courtesy of MT, you can see it here, below.

A sampling of some of the finer (and tinier) Z accessories can be found at Microscopic Z Accessories on Z Scale Continuation Page 2; Miller Engineering material formerly here has been moved there.


If no one wants to just give me a new Rogue LIRR GP38-2 or C44-9W or the M-T SP 2-6-0 outright, I guess I'll just have to settle for buying a Chicago Railcar Z8601 Bobber Caboose.  Anyone have either of these?  As to the bobber, I'll "settle" for a pair of Larry Hoff's bobbers (see above)!

MT Z SP Moguls

Micro-Trains was kind enough to allow me to reproduce their photo of the new Mogul (my wish list topper - thanks, M-T!) here:

MT Z SP Mogul 16000
Micro-Trains® photo used by permission.

Shown:  Item Number 16000, Southern Pacific Road Number 1798, Class M-6a,

large headlight w/sun hood, large boiler tube pilot, Vanderbilt oil tender.

Micro-Trains also has two other versions:

Item Number 16001, Southern Pacific Road Number 1785, Class M-6a,

large headlight w/o sun hood, small boiler tube pilot, Vanderbilt oil tender,


Item Number 16002, Southern Pacific Road Number 1681, Class M-4,

large headlight w/o sun hood, large boiler tube pilot, conventional oil tender.

Please visit the Micro-Trains site; more views and the other Moguls were pictured on their Moguls page (but hurry back, y'heah?).  That wa slong ago; they are collector items now!

At long last, a kind Z soul (the best kind) up in Canada (Jan 99) offered me his old Märklin 8962 Dürnau Station.  Thank you, Sir; this is pure obsession - I really could have used another structure but I designed the space to fit Dürnau, and Dürnau it had to be (and now is)!

V 32 001

We need no longer pray for (or plan on counterfeiting) a Z version of the Märklin HO #3420/3720 1924 Diesel-Compressed Air tank locomotive DRG Class V 32 4-6-4T Hudson-type, the Insider Model 1995 (see Page 33 of the 1995 New Items brochure) - Ztrack for May/June 2000, page 13, announced that the Märklin Insider Z Model for 2000 is just that, #88065; the entire coverage of this odd loco has now been moved to Z Page 6.

Hey; I picked up a 1975 Märklin catalog to fill in between my original of 1972 and the 1980 with which I worked when I bought my first mini-club equipment.  This one, a store copy originally from Ted's Hardware and Trains in Tampa, has most of the Z prices inked in by hand and they're a hoot (or heartbreak)!  Just for laughs (ha, ha, - or sniff, sniff), here are a few representative items:

8800 - $33.95 - 0-4-0T Steam Shunter
8864 - $39.95 - Co Diesel Shunter
8803 - $51.95 - 2-6-0 Steam Commuter
8885 - $74.95 - 4-6-2 Steam Pacific
8854 - $68.95 - Co-Co Diesel
8816 - $39.95 - A-A Diesel Railcar
8817 - $14.95 - Railcar Trailer
8710 - $  9.50 - Express Coach
8720 - $  9.95 - Express Coach
8700 - $  6.50 - {old-timer} Coach
8728 - $13.95 - TEE Dome Car
8600 - $  6.00 - Refrigerated Car
8610 - $  4.50 - Gondola
8611 - $  6.50 - Tank Car
8620 - $13.95 - Well {Schnabel} Car
8621 - $13.95 - Crane Car
8500 - $    .85 - 110mm Track Section
8510 - $    .90 - 145mm Curved Track - 45°
8592 - $  2.75 - 100-120mm {extensible} Track Section
8560 - $21.50 - Double Slip Switch
8561 - $27.95 - {powered} Turnouts {pair}
8567 - $29.95 - Curved Turnouts {pair}
8891 - $  1.50 - Buffer Stop
8966 - $  9.95 - Locomotive Shed

Read it and weep!

At the same time, I picked up five more 8620 Schnabel cars to chop up for photos of the Schnabel loading sequence - BUT - they are all different from the original 8620 and from each other!  They are from the 8688, 8689, 8690, 8691, and 8892 Regional Sets and I can't very well destroy them; this overloaded this page and they appear on

For Z-scale construction articles (but NOT this one), see my Z Scale Articles Page.

Of course, if you really want a wish list, pix and info overloaded this page so it's all continued on Z Continuation Page 7.

For the story of the Berlinerwerke-Z (my layout), see the Berlinerwerke-Z Saga page, et. seq.

For tall tales of the BW and its equipment and such, visit the Berlinerwerke Apocrypha page.

For more and better illustrations of the tall tales and such, keep in touch; I have my digital camera (11 Jan 1999 - a belated Xmas present - an SLR, no less!), the requisite software loaded, and scads of server storage space.  Now, all I have to do is take more pictures.

See also the preceding page, succeeding page, and the Z-scale articles page.

For Ztrack Magazine, see its new separate page.

For 1:440 and even 1:900, see 1:440 Scale and 1:900 Scale!

(moved from this page)

Best regardZ,  S.B.,III

Someone else signs off, "Be Z'ing you!"

Visit these courtesy and official home pages:

    Long Island Sunrise - Trail Chapter
    (National Railway Historical Society)

    Sunrise Trail Division
    (Northeastern Region)
    (National Model Railroad Association)

    Ztrack Magazine - The Newsletter for Z Scale Model Railroading

    Long Island Live Steamers

    Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad

    Degnon Terminal Railroad

    Marion River Carry Railroad

You may wish to visit the Railroad Continuation Page, et seq.

of this series of Railroad pages.


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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