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Z-Scale Model Railroad Continuation Page 9


NOTE:  Page size was limited by HTML to some 30kB;
thus, I was forced to add new pages just for Z-Scale, more Z-scale, and articles about Z-scale.


Some internal links, which work fine on my home page and others, may not work here!  I'm working on it, but haven't a clue; I even just copied the working links over and they may not work here.  So, scroll away, if necessary!

On the main Z-Scale page:

Scale and Gauge
Scale Conversion Table
Z-Scale Miscellany
Z-Scale Wiring Conventions
Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
    (moved to Z-Scale page 3 on 01 Jan 00)
Z-Scale Repair and Hobby Shops

On the Sub-Z-Scale Page :

Z-Scale Narrow Gauge (really)
    (moved from the main Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
Z-Scale Meter Gauge
Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains!
    (moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)
1:900 Scale - Tiniest Trains!
    (moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 1:

Zictionary Part 1 ("A" - "M") - lotZ of wordZ
(moved from Page 4 on 31 Jul 00 and split on 28 May 01)!

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 1a:

Zictionary Part 2 ("N" - "Z") - lotZ of wordZ!

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 1a:

Zictionary Part 2 ("N" - "Z") - lotZ of wordZ!

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 2:

Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal RR in Z
Z-SCALE DIMENSIONS (with how to approximate a mile of track).
Overton Coaches, Bobber, Crane and a Boxcab in Z! - plus other neat items.
Wish List - some goodieZ I'd like and some I have,
    like Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel and GN/WFEX Reefer
    and Larry Hoff's Bobber Caboose and Crane!
M-T Z SP Moguls - the absolute top of the Wish List!*

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 3:

Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
Power - Volts, Amps, Watts for Z.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 4:

Some More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel
        and new HomaBed Z roadbed.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 5:

(a page for the Third Millennium):
Even More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.
Microscopic Z Accessories.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 6

(a page of the Third Millennium):
V 32 001 Diesel Pneumatic in Z.
Yet More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.
BEDT #14 in Z.
8800 vs. 8805.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 7

And More Z
    8620 Well/Depressed Center/Schnabel Cars
Will Wright's Full Throttle

On the previous Z-Scale Continuation Page 8

Z Beech BonZana.
Z-scale UP Veranda Turbine?

On this Z-Scale Continuation Page 9

Z-scale VehicleZ - continued
    SS100 Jaguar in Z!
  new (16 Aug 2013)
Z-Scale PRR FF1 "Big Liz"   new (16 Jan 2014)
Märklin 88507 Streamlined Cab-Forward BR-05   new (08 Mar 2017)
  Pennsy Test of BR-05     new (08 Mar 2017)

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 10

Z-scale VehicleZ - continued
  Z-Panzer     new (22 Jul 2019)

On the Ztrack page:

Ztrack Magazine

On the Z-Scale Articles page:

Z-Scale Hell Gate Bridge

On the first Model Railroad page:

Schnable Cars
Sunrise Trail Division (STD) of the
    Northeastern Region (NER) of the
    National Model Railroad Association (NMRA)
Long Island - Sunrise Trail Chapter (LIST) of the
    National Railway Historical Society (NRHS)
Long Island Live Steamers

On the second Model Railroad page:

  Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model:
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad (but see below)
Degnon Terminal Railroad
Marion River Carry Railroad

On separate pages:

  Berlinerwerke-Z Script   Berlinerwerke-Z Saga
    Berlinerwerke-Z Saga Continuation Page
  Berlinerwerke Script   Berlinerwerke Saga (HO, included with Horseshoe Curve info.)
    Berlinerwerke Apocrypha (tall tales of the BW and its equipment and such).
    Schnable and other Giant RR Cars.



Z-Scale model railroading, at an incredible 220 times smaller than life size, or slightly under half the size of the familiar HO scale, with rails only 6.5mm (~¼") apart, continued ...

Z scale is about 2½ times smaller than HO!  In Z scale, a scale ¼-mile is exactly (and only) 6 feet; in other words, a mile is only 24 feet!

Because much information about Z scale is in German, you might find Chris Ozdoba's Eisenbahn- und Modellbahn-Wörterbuch - Deutsch-Englisch / Railroad and Model Railroading Dictionary - German-English of value.

Ztrack Magazine

The Newsletter for Z Scale Model Railroading

Ztrack now has a separate page of its own -

Z-scale VehicleZ - continued

The section on Z-scale Vehicles on page 3, Z-Scale Vehicles and Rubber Autos, overloaded the page so I am carryiong it forward on this page.

[What follows was transferred from page 3 on 23 Jan 2007.]

I have a great nostalgia for ESSO (not EXXON) and was very pleased to get an ESSO tanker, as well; it is #814 from H(annes). Fischer GmbH, D-7988, Wangen/Algau:

Fischer 814 ESSO
(grab shot taken 07 Aug 03 by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Another surprise; it is from the EXACT same mold cavity as my regular Noch tankers!  Little did I know that Noch bought out Hannes-Fischer in the late 1980s.  However, the Fischer cab has clear windows; my many Noch tankers have painted windows.

Here's a slightly different Esso one and others decorated for Aral, Shell, and BP:

ZEssoTanker7 ZEssoTanker8

ZAralTanker9 ZShellTanker10

ZBPTanker11 ZBPTanker11
(20/21 Sep 2005 photos by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Next, here are a miscellaneous bunch of vehicles I've acquired (the two VWz are from Lájos Thek and have turned aluminum axles with real rubber tires); in the center, the station wagons are Mercedes 250Ts (Noch 4724) and the vans are VW Transporters (Noch 4732); I have four of the the great vans at upper right but had no clue from whence they sprang and only pictured the three that had different side windows and roof detail (turns out they are from the Märklin 8903 set pictured above and also below):

ZVWz ZVans
Thek VWs | 3 vans from Märklin 8903

ZNoch4724MB270TStationWagons ZNoch4732VWTRansporters
Noch 4724 Mercedes 250T | Noch 4732 VW Transporters

ZColumbia18whlr ZKeyCity18whlr
(21 Sep 2005 photos by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

The Märklin 4724 and 4732 vehicles have clear windows and detailed black undersides.

I turned up even more vehicleZ (these photos were simply appalling and were reshot but some are still bad); there was the full Märklin 8904 car set and the full Märklin 8903 truck set (with the M-B star) and I took shots of those, plus a pair of Märklin 8918 trucks (without the M-B star) and a detail of the grilles of the two big trucks from each set (not that much shows but you can just make out the star in a circle on the left two from 8903 and the blank circle on those on the right two from 8918), and the undersides of the Noch cars showing how they are made from clear plastic and the Thek VWs showing their aluminum axles with real rubber tires(!):

ZMärk8903Trucks ZMärk8918Trucks
Märklin 8903 and 8918 Trucks

Märklin 8903 and 8918 Truck Grilles

Märklin 8903 and 8918 Truck Grilles (enlarged)

ZNochCarsUnder ZThekVWsUnder
Undersides of Noch cars (clear) and Thek VWs (showing Alum. Axles and Rubber Tires)

ZWaldner ZNoch4787Dr.OetkerReefer
(21 Sep 2005 photos by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

The Waldner truck turns out to be the Noch 4785 with a Mercedes tractor, while the last, Noch 4787, is different from all the other box trailers, it is a refrigerated trailer (for Dr. Oetker).

Now, the Noch 4780 flat bed truck, was in the 1985 Walthers catalog with a wooden log load@ (and the 4781 flat bed truck carried pipes@); was the log truck ever really released for sale and does anyone out there have one with which they'd part?  Ayuh!  I thought I'd gotten one (for the Mercerized BentZ plant):

(20 Sep 2006 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
Noch 4745 Semi-Trailer with Lumber Load

WhoopZ - that'Z lumber, not logZ!  Back to the drawing board?  It's Noch's 4745.  That means I still want a 4781:

@ - that turns out to be wrong; the 4780 carried pipes and the 4781 carried logs:

(photo by, and courtesy of, Ron Rygielski - all rights reserved)
[Langholz = Long logs]

Noch 4781 Semi-Trailer with Log Load

I artificially lightened the photo to show the truck and log load better.  Does anyone out there have one they can spare, please?  It would be just perfect for the Mercerized BentZ plant.  Note that the 4781 is a Euro 2-axle tractor with 3-axle trailer while the 4745 with lumber load is a standard American-style 18-wheeler.

[What preceded was transferred from page 3 on 23 Jan 2007.]

[What follows was transferred from page 8 on 23 Jan 2007.]

I was still looking for the Noch 4780 semi-trailer with log load; well, change that to the Noch 4781, and asked if anyone out there had one they'd spare?  Well, thanks to Ron Rygielski, I now (26 Jan 2007) have one!  It is just perfect for the Mercerized BentZ plant.  Note that the 4781 is a Euro 2-axle tractor with 3-axle trailer while the 4745 with lumber load is a standard American-style 18-wheeler:

(20 Sep 2006 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
Noch 4745 Semi-Trailer with Lumber Load

[What preceded was transferred from page 8 on 23 Jan 2007.]

It appears that the Noch 4780 carries a pipe load:

(photo by, and courtesy of, Ron Rygielski - all rights reserved)
[Röhren-Sattelzug = Pipe Carrier]

Noch 4780 Semi-Trailer with Pipe Load

I also artificially lightened this photo to show the truck and pipe load better.

Ron Rygielski, who so-kindly furnished the Noch 4780 and 4781 photos, is a dealer in Z items.

Whil(e)(st) at the Z get-together at host Ron Ruddell's London Bridge Collector's Toys in Emmaus, Pennsylvania, on 12 Jul 2008, I picked up the Märklin 89021 set, one that had snuck by me.  The vehicleZ are hollow die cast metal I have not yet troubled to look up what it contains, so I'll play a guessing game here:

(13 Jul 2008 photo by, and ©, S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
Märklin 89021 VehicleZ Set

My guesses:

VW Truck (open) / M-B 170 / BMW / VW Bug (maroon) / caravan
VW Truck (w/tarp) / M-B 170 Van / M-B 220SE / VW Bug (blue) / Citroën 2CV

Now to see if the Märklin site describes the vehicles.

Sure does!  These were from the 2005-2006 programs and represent Era III, the Economic Miracle period.  The Mercedes 170 is the 170V model (duh - I knew that!), the BMW is a 501 V8, the Mercedes van is a 170T and the 220 is "only" a 220S; the caravan is identifed as a "trailer" and is "suitable" to be hauled by the VW Beetles.

SS100 Jaguar in Z!   new (16 Aug 2013)

Speaking of Z-scale vehicles, looking idly through eBay's Z offerings on 16 Aug 2013, what should strike my eye but two SS100 Jaguar cars!  Now, I am a big fan of the SS automobile, predecessor of today's Jaguar cars, and, whil(e)(st) not particularly fond of the low, wide, and exceedingly short-wheelbased late-1930's SS100 models, could not possibly resist this one!  One came in British Racing Green and one in bright (Italian) red, both with black fenders/wings; fancying the flashier red car, I instantly ordered it 16 Aug 2013):

SS100 Jaguar Car

With a price no higher than the car model itself, how could I go wrong?  I haven't a clue which coin is pictured but, when the car comes in, I'll post my own microphoto with a U. S. dime for comparison.  Regardless, it's TINY!  At 12' 8" (152"/3.86m) long, it should scale out to 0.69"/17.5mm; we shall see.

Actually, I had ordered a green car before I spotted the red one, cancelled the green car, and ordered the red one, but eBay put both through and I decided the green one will be customized as the 1938 Earl's Court SS Jaguar "100" Fixed-Head Coupé, EHP 111, 39088 - and all that at 220 times smaller than life size!  Here they are, as received 22 Aug 2013, and right on the money (a U. S. dime) at 17.5mm:   new (22 Aug 2013)

SS100 Jaguar Cars in Z (1:220)

The windscreen frames should be chrome (silver) on the roadsters!

Now for some microscopic carving and filling!  Problem - should I paint the FHC silver, as I saw it, or pale lavender (as it apparently once was)? I think I'll opt for silver.

Z-Scale PRR FF1 "Big Liz" - now here's a fun project for someone!  Use two Márklin 88274 mechanisms, machine down the outer drivers, add circular etchings for the quill drives, pull in the pilot trucks, ditch the trailing trucks, and awaaaay we go (16 Jan 2014):

Toying with Márklin's 88274 Chassis for a Z (1:220) Pennsy "Big Liz"
(Click on thumbnailed picture for much larger image)

"Big Liz" was built in 1917 and was far too powerful, yanking out drawbars with great regularity; that's a risk I'd gladly chance in Z scale!

Oh, I completely forgot - Harald Thom-Freudenreich cautioned me 2½ years ago that the 88274's (and all Märklin Z steamers') inner drivers are raised slighty (they don't touch the railhead!); no biggie - just shim the #2 axle slots (that's easy to say; I haven't found any used 88274's available for a song, anyway!).  Also, I only just noticed (remembered) that Big Liz's #2 (middle) tires were blind/flangeless.   added (08 Mar 2017)

Not having anything hard with which to work, I tried another "design" study:

Toying further with Márklin's 88274 Chassis for a Z (1:220) Pennsy "Big Liz"

Not bad, not bad at all, BUT - the motor seems to sit awfully far back; I'd guess the chassis with the motor is going to have to be rigidly fixed within the body shell and only the unpowered chassis will be free to swivel.  Quite the opposite of most tiny articulated models, where both chassis swivel when only the forward engine should (and on the FF1 both should!).  A pair of 88273s should also work and are a little less expensive.

Märklin 88507 German Sreamlined Steam Locomotive BR 05 Cab Forward of the DRG, Era II (1937) [a UIC 2'C'2 or Whyte 4-6-4 Hudson] (08 Mar 2017) -

Märklin 88507 Cab-Forward BR 05

Now, this item, discontinued at the factory but still available here (so far), at $1,309.35!!! [used (only): $985!] is one of the latest examples of Märklin's profligate ways, foolish beyond measure!  In line with silver, gold, and platinum loks, with diamond and ruby lenses, and castles and giant RR stations, which the average custmer neither wants nor can use, they waste their time and effort on this!

5" (126mm) long and certainly one of the most-interesting German steamers ever, the design work that went into the 88507 could just as easily have been spent on a die-cast version that nearly-everyone could afford and enjoy.

"This locomotive is an exquisite, completely equipped brass handmade model in the elegant red paint scheme of the DRG in Era II.  It is technically perfectly crafted out of etched brass parts.  The locomotive is equipped with a powerful can motor with a bell-shaped armature that powers a metal gear drive.  All driving axles powered.  The triple headlights are warm white LEDs that change over with the direction of travel.  The upper lights (headlight for oncoming train) can be turned off separately by means of a switch.  The locomotive has open brass spoked wheels.  The spacing between the locomotive and the tender can be adjusted.  The engineer's cab has windows and a reproduction of the cab interior.  Fill-in pieces are included for the cutouts on the skirting so that the model can be displayed perfectly in a display case.  Additional detail parts are included to complete the buffer beam on the rear of the tender.  The locomotive comes with the Märklin Z coupler on the rear.  The locomotive has many separately applied lines and details.  The brake imitations as well as sand pipes and rail clearance devices are indicated.  The buffers have straight and curved buffer plates.  The minimum radius for operation is 195 mm / 7-11/16" due to the fine detailing and the length of the model (approximately 126 mm / 5" over the buffers).  The locomotive is packaged in a real wood case, and the set also has a replica of the builder's plate made of metal." {very slightly edited}


· First time for the edition of a Fine Art handmade model in fine brass construction.
· The finest of detailing.
· Elegant dark red paint scheme.
· Open metal spoked wheels.
· Powerful can motor with a bell-shaped armature.
· Reproduction of the engineer's cab interior.
· Fill-in pieces included for the skirting cutouts.
· Upper headlights for oncoming trains canbe turned off separately.
· Many separately applied details.
· Packaged in a high quality wooden case.
· Metal replica of the builder's plate included.
"One-time series only for Märklin Insider members".

Now, there's nothing terribly wrong with making special items available to the faithful (I've bought a few, as you can see - both when a member and, afterward, "pre-owned"), but FOURTEEN HUNDRED BUCKS worth?

Enough carping - it IS a magnificent offering; as was the prototype:

05003 Streamlined Cab-Forward BR 05

Didja Know Department - The Pennsylvania Railroad tried one out; it looked rather neat in Tuscan with 5-stripes:

Pennsy Trial of DRG Cab-Forward BR 05
(brought to you by the Berlinerwerke Art Department*)
[* - and THAT should tell you something!]

I havent been able to find what became of the trial loco (or is it loco trial?).

Pennsy brass didn't like that lettering scheme so the loco was run through the paint shop once more:   new (23 Jan 2019)

Pennsy Trial of DRG Cab-Forward BR 05
(brought to you by the Berlinerwerke Art Department*)
[* - and THAT should once again tell you something!]

That still doesn't tell us what happened to the loco.  I'd LOVE to get a Märklin 88507 and redecorate it but, at the current (23 Jan 2019) DISCOUNTED on-line price of ONLY $1,249.98 (!!!), there's simply NO WAY I'm a'gonna do any such!

Best regardZ,  S.B.,III

Someone else signs off, "Be Z'ing you!"

You may wish to visit the Railroad Continuation Page, et seq.

of this series of Railroad pages.


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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