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S. Berliner, III
Consultant in Ultrasonic Processing
"changing materials with high-intensity sound"

[consultation is on a fee basis]

Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher

note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

S. Berliner, III's


Automotive Page
Continuation Page 3


A third continuation page to tie in my
    Chrysler page, et seq.
(with the Walter P. Chrysler story).
    Mercedes page, et seq..
    SS and Jaguar Cars, et seq.
    Civil War era Dudgeon (really!) Steam Automobile - still operable!
    the Long Island Motor Parkway page, et seq.,
    and the L. I. Motor Parkway Panel
        (convened to keep the LIMP alive in situ and in minds and museums).
    LIMP-Vanderbilt Cup Race page:
    Tractors page.
    Road/Highway Schnabels (giant road loads/heavy haulers).
and other related pages, plus a place to put more auto apocrypha
  including the CYCLOPS,
  the ALCO,
  and a HELP Section.

On the main Automotive Page:
Automotive miscellany on the Main Automotive Page is unindexed; please scroll away!

On Automotive Continuation Page 1:
  Automotive Apocrypha - continued.
  An Odd NY City Street (moved again, to Odd Streets page on 16 May 02),
  Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!, and
  Old 16 Locomobile

On Automotive Continuation Page 2:
  Gasoline Brands (moved from main page 25 Jan 2003 and to Cont. Page 4 on 23 May 2007),
    (see also Old Gas Stations on Cont. Page 4.
  Automotive Slogans.
  Nomenclature - automotive terms (with British practice).
  Classic Cars.

On this Automotive Continuation Page 3:
  Hornthal's 1900s Hearse De Luxe
  Classic Cars Continued, with
    Australian Phantom I with Mystery Body.
  Porsche Patricide

On Automotive Continuation Page 4:
  Gasoline Brands (moved from main page 25 Jan 2003 and to this Page 4 on 23 May 2007),
  Old Gas Stations

See also my Classic Cars and K-R-I-T Automobile pages.

Odd Streets - highways and byways.
    An Odd NY City Street
    Nassau Boulevard.

The Dudgeon is for real; it is an 1866 steam auto,
one of which survives in running condition!

Adtranz, formed Jan 1996, merging rail transportation activities of ABB Ltd. and Daimler-Benz AG took DaimlerChrysler into the railroad business and the sale of the venture to Bombardier, announced 04 Aug 2000, apparently takes them right out again!

FIRST I.C. LOCO! - Gottlieb Daimler built an internal-combustion-powered locomotive ca. 1890!  For more information, click HERE!

Also, Exxon and Mobil merged as of 01 Dec 98;
two of my most favo(u)rite gasolines (petrols)!*

There is also a lot of automotive material on my ORDNANCE and HISTORY pages.

Also, if you like automotive history, see the links on the Dudgeon page.

I didn't know where to stick this, Long Island, history, RR (Trolley), etc., so the automotive part will have to go here but the balance and much more has been moved to Universal Funeral Chapel and Hornthal's 1900s Hearse De Luxe on History Continuation Page 1.  It relates a story of my father, who, with his father, was one of New York City's leading funeral directors.  When he was a kid, just after WWI, he rode one of those huge hearses that were used back then out to a Long Island cemetery and back for some reason or another.  It was Winter and wet and freezing.  On the way home to Manhattan, they took the outside of the inbound outer (north) lower level of the then-new Queensborough bridge, where trolley cars ran then.  On arriving at the Manhattan (west) end, the high, narrow front tires of the hearse stayed in the trolley tracks and wouldn't steer.  The trolley barn under the bridge abutment was coming up fast and they had to steer to the right to stay on the roadway and the slick, icy rails had the hearse in an uncontrollable slide.  Unable to either stop or steer, they slid majestically into the trolley barn, past astonished workers, until the dry rails inside gave enough traction to stop.  My, did they scare the bejasus out of the workers!  In those days, they used a "service chapel", a rented facility that supplied space and all mortuary services and amentities, even hearses and cars and drivers; the place was the Universal Funeral Chapel, then owned by Sam Hornthal.  Since Dad died in 1970, I've had his desk paperweight, a 2½" x 4" x ¾" chunk of glass with a photo of a hearse (much like that one but with balloon tires) under the glass; it took a bit of doing but here is a scan of the paperweight:

Hornthal hearse
(31 May 2004 image by and © 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image - click on photo for larger image]

[Gramercy!  Will you look at that telephone number - 2094 Gramercy?
That's from when you had to call "Central" and ask for the number!]

Sometime ca. 1993, I visited one of those cemeteries and who should I run into but that very driver, by then exceedingly elderly, and he still remembered that story all too well!

Wayne Koch, Metro North Equipment Engineer, sent along this old photo from his vast collection; it shows a 3rd Avenue car leaving Manhattan, whether from the car barn under the bridge abutment at the left or from 58th Street behind the camera, heading east toward Long Island City (and so signed):   new.gif (21 Feb 09)

(cropped from photo courtesy of W Koch - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed photo for larger image]

That is the south-west end of the bridge and a mirror image of the site noted in the preceding yarn.  You know, I don't think that car is going anywhere at the moment; the doors are open and that sure LOOKS like the motorman sitting on the curb!

For more about Hornthal, Universal, and my dad, see History Continuation Page 1.   new.gif (17 Aug 2011)

So, who can postively identify the vehicle - a Cadillac?

  According to the Coachbuilt site, it's probably a White 140" professional car chassis and Hornthal was at 327 E. 53d St., only a block and a half east of 597 Lex.   new (03 Aug 2012)

Of that same era was the K-R-I-T (not Krit), named for builder Kenneth Crittenden and only made from 1910 to 1915:

(1912 K-R-I-T 25/30 photo from Net)

I once saw a K-R-I-T at an early Hershey meet and it stuck in my mind, with Native American swastikas on the hubcaps and a horizontal arrow through the name as a trademark (as I recall).  Somehow, an elderly couple got to talking to me late in the day and said that they had honeymooned in a K-R-I-T and had been walking all over the show, hoping to find one.  Well, I told them how rare they were and how unlikely it was they'd ever see one and then walked them over to the car and even wangled a ride in it for them!

The company/car name is spelled both "KRIT" and "K-R-I-T" in various publications but "KRIT" on the radiator badges.   added.gif (04 Aug 08)

On 03 Aug 2008, along cometh John Hinckley, grandson of Kenneth Crittenden, who (the grandfather) was "a founder and Chief Engineer of the K-R-I-T Motor Car Company in Detroit (1909-1915); after the company folded and the facilities were sold to Owen Magnetic and Packard, he went to work for Henry Ford for several years, then was hired by Walter P. Chrysler, and spent the next 40 years with Chrysler, retiring in the mid-60's as Vice President - Manufacturing."

Hinkley, no mean automotive personage in his own right, is a retired senior Chrysler executive who spent his last six years as the Viper Plant Manager before retiring in 2001.  He notes that "there is at least one exceptional K-R-I-T example left - a 1913 5-passenger touring car is on display at the National Auto Museum in Reno, Nevada (formerly the Bill Harrah collection)".

John Hinkley also sent along the cover and six pages from a booklet of testimonials by satisfied K-R-I-T owners, published by K-R-I-T in late 1912 (click on thumbnails for larger images):

(1912 K-R-I-T Testimonials Booklet Front Cover)

(1912 K-R-I-T Testimonials Booklet Pages 6 and 7)

(1912 K-R-I-T Testimonials Booklet Pages 8 and 9)

(1912 K-R-I-T Testimonials Booklet Pages 10 and 11)

Note that the company/car name is spelled both ways - "KRIT" and "K-R-I-T".

So - what other K-R-I-Ts remain?  Let's hear from you (readers, not cars!).

CLASSIC CARS (continued)

Australian Phantom I with Mystery Body.

Down in Australia sits a monster 1925 New Phantom (Phantom I) with an incomplete body and quite a history.  Let's start with a photo of what's left of the car (with its current ~5' 6" owners, for comparison):

25 Ph I Leeds
(cropped from photo courtesy of owners - all rights reserved)
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HUGE, ain't it?

Although quite a bit of documentation exists for this car, it's exact body details are, unfortunately, unknown (so far) and that is the purpose of this posting.  We seek any information, or leads to such, regarding how this car was originally bodied in order to restore it as authentically as possible.

We know, for starters, that the car was built by the Derby works of Rolls Royce in 1925; the original build sheets indicate that the car was shipped as a right hand drive chassis to Mr. William B. Leeds* in 1926.  "Billy' Leeds was quite a guy, being married to Princess Xenia of the Russian Romanovs at 18 while still at Eton; he lived at Strathbrae, in Oyster Bay, Long Island, but delivery was to New York, transported by Wingate & Johnson.

In 1929 (13/2/29), it was serviced (lots done) by Rolls Royce Ltd. (which facility - Derby, Springfield, or Long Island City?), marked for the attention of a Mr. McLocklin (possibly Billy's chauffeur).

The odds are very good that the body, which was originally to have been a limousine, was probably built in Long Island City by Brewster; the tubular bumper is a Brewster "trademark".  There are a number of other features that indicate that it may have been a Brewster Body, but there is no carrosserie badge to prove that.  You can see the roadster-style boot (trunk) lid up in the photo.  The records show that the chassis had to be modified at Derby for the lighter body prior to shipment.

The car then disappears until sold in the 1950's.  The present owners bought it from a man in New Hampshire on behalf of his grandfather, who bought it in the 50's.  The seller didn't know much about the history and certainly didn't know where it was between 1930 and 1950.  This car was delivered as, and has always been right-hand drive - reducing it's value in the U. S. {news to me! - SB,III}  So, the present owners found it for sale on the Internet and bought it (they are right-hand drive there in Australia).

We do not know much germane to the tale of the Rolls.  For the human aspect, a personal note - Billy Leeds married Princess Xenia Georgievna Romanov on 09 Oct 1921; the King and Queen sent the bride a diamond and ruby pendant.  The bridegroom's mother had recently married the brother of the King of Greece.  American millionairess Mrs. William B. Leeds, wife of Prince Christopher of Greece, had died on 23 Aug 1923 at Spencer House, St. James, leaving the famous Leeds jewels, said to be worth £250,000, to her daughter-in-law, Princess Xenia of Russia.  Princess Xenia soon refused to wear the jewels following her husband's insistence that they were unlucky and must be stored at a jewelers.

Xenia and Billy Leeds had a daughter, Nancy Helen Marie Leeds, born in New York City on 04 Feb 1925.  Nancy married Edward Judson Wynkoop, Jr. (born in Syracuse, New York, on 23 May 1917, the son of Edward Judson Wynkoop) on 22 Dec 1945 and is the grand-daughter of Princess Marie of Greece (Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg).  Princess Marie's mother was Olga and her father was George I.  Olga and Czar Nicholas II of Russia were first cousins (Nicholas was the father of Princess Anastasia).  Nancy had a daughter, Alexandra (Aleka) Wynkoop (born in Stamford, Connecticut, on 30 Mar 1959).  Billy Leeds and Princess Xenia were later divorced, in 1930.  Princess Xenia Georgievna Romanov Leeds Jud passed away in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York on 17 Sep 1965.

Nancy Wynkoop, who is the great-great-granddaughter of George Mikhailovitch, is directly in the line of succession to the Greek throne thanks to a deal between King Constantine I and Nancy Leeds.  That succession is limited to the descendants of George I - the current succession is Pavlos, Nicholas, Philippos, Alexia, Theodora, Irene, and Nancy Leeds Wynkoop, (as Princess Marie never renounced her rights when she married George of Russia.)

Nancy Wynkoop was interviewed several years ago for a special on Anastasia which plays from time to time on TLC or the History Channel on Cable here in the United States.

While this is all most interesting, it sheds no light on the car in question (Nancy and Alexandra Wynkoop are unable to help with this matter).

So, does anyone out there in the great Internet Unknown have any information to help with the proper restoration of this most interesting vehicle?

Now, here's another Rolls, a sketch (or tracing) I made apparently ca. Apr 1955 or so, cropped from a yellowed 8½" x 11" vellum sheet I found inexplicably on the floor one day in early Aug 2008 (I can only guess it slipped out from other papers):

(cropped from ca. 1955 sketch/tracing by and © 2008 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[click on thumbnailed image for a larger image]

It looks to me like a Waterhouse Victoria on a Phantom II chassis.  I date it from a similar tracing on my Mercedes cont. page 1 and wonder if I didn't trace it from an article in an early issue of "Classic Car" about Waterhouse.  Regardless of how the image came to be, it certainly represents one of the most elegant motorcars ever designed (in my not-so-humble opinion).

* - Billy Leeds turns up again as the buyer of a 1913 Labourdette-bodied Peugeot "Skiff" on my Automotive Page 5.   new (22 Feb 2017)

- - - * - - -

Now, is this a classic car or an antique or a model or a toy?  A famous collector sent this photo of an old Packard Six to me:

Packard Six Pedal Car
(photo courtesy of owner - all rights reserved)

The car is, of course, a pedal car and I'd guess it to be of WWI vintage and the prototype Packard Six of pre-WWI vintage; the owner thinks it is post-1922 but another collector is inclined to agree with my dating but the car has what appears to be a later version of the earlier "stirrup" style pedals.  So, let's say it is a classic antique toy model car, shall we, eh?  Either that or that is one hell of a large broom!  Is anyone out there able to document what we have here?

'33 Chrysler {?} Trunk - I was sent these three gigantic images of a trunk supposedly from a 1933 Chrysler touring car; it certainly looked right to me but I wasn't sure.  Because it is so shallow (front-to-back), I was inclined to think it from a smaller car, not from an Imperial:

33 Chry Trunk - front 33 Chry Trunk - corner

33 Chry Trunk - front
(all rights reserved to JH)
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These images are cropped, enhanced, and somewhat reduced from the original 1Mb ones sent to me (gross overkill!).

That badge strikes me as odd; would the maker have painted over his own badge?

It reads:






The brightwork is remarkably good; here are selected enlargements of the horizontal and vertical latches, the catches, and the reinforcements:

33 Chry Trunk Horiz. Latch 33 Chry Trunk Vert. Latch

33 Chry Trunk Catch 33 Chry Trunk Reinf.
(all rights reserved to JH)
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I couldn't find Padco or Padgitt, although I did find an obit for Tom Padgitt (1846-1926), a businessman in , who was born near Gallatin, Tennessee, on December 13, 1846, moved to Texas in 1854, and went to work for his uncle, a saddle and harness maker, in Houston in 1858.  During the Civil War, Padgitt worked in a Confederate Army saddle shop in Houston; after the war he opened his own saddle and harness shop in Bryan and then extended his business and, in 1872, opened a saddle and harness shop in Waco.  Padgitt died on October 19, 1926, but there is no mention of Padco, Dallas, nor auto trunks.

Originally, I posted this on my Chrysler page 5 but moved it when I realized that we were 'way off base.  Chrysler works trunks of that era were quite different; the rear sloped up and forward and they had a chrome band centered vertically on the rear and no straps.  Also, they were all low and deep.  LeBaron and other custom Chryslers (usually Imperials) had two chrome bands but no straps.  So, unless it was a custom trunk, or a MUCH earlier trunk, this is NOT a Chrysler trunk.  If anyone knows anything more about this particular trunk or Padco, please let us know.

Gigantic rail cars for carrying enormous loads like nuclear reactor vessels and transformers (800 tons worth!) are covered on my Schnabel page, et seq.; roadable versions of these monsters now have their own Road Loads page, et seq.

Rocket Car (no, really!) - there are incredible pictures and some historical background about a 1921 Chevy 490 converted (supposedly in 1929 - wouldn't Dr. Goddard have been surprised!) with a B-29-style body and a rocket engine on my Champlain College Continuation Page 3 page.

Porsche Patricide

a.k.a. Sick Transit Gloria Monday!

Here's automotive mayhem to make the toughest guy weep!  Sent via e-mail, I have no provenance other than that there is a posting on the Net quoting the AP that a train struck a car-carrier in Ventura, California, loaded with vintage Porsches after the carrier became "high-centered" on the tracks around 15:45 on Sunday, 12 Sep 2004.  The police tried to stop all train traffic but a northbound freight train cleaned the carrier dead center.  Luckily, the hapless (witless?) driver got out in time and the train, although the loco's front truck derailed, stayed on the track.  A Porsche collection at a museum somewhere, in transit, and - - - WHAMMO:

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck01 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck02

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck03 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck04

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck06 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck07

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck09 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck10

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck11 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck12

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck13 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck15

12Sep04PorscheUPWreck08 12Sep04PorscheUPWreck14
(from e-mail - no provenance)
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"Stop, Look, & Listen", indeed!  There, but for the grace of God, go my belovèd classic Chrysler Imperials, Mercedes, and SS Jaguars!


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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