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S. Berliner, III
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note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

[Please note that these pages could also have been accessed as URL http://berliner-ultrasonics.home.att.net/lim*.html,
a "vanity" URL (q.v.) that did not require the tilde (~), as was true of ALL of my old pages.}


S. Berliner, III's

sbiii.com

LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY

a.k.a. Vanderbilt Motor Parkway

(and related matters)

(LIMP History Continuation Page 0)

Motor Parkway Logo

Because the Main Page overloaded, please visit Continuation Pages 1A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.


PAGE INDEX

note-rt.gif  The index on this page has been truncated (links removed) to save page space; see the LIMP Index on the page preceding the main LIMP page.

On the LIMP History Page:

  HISTORY OF THE LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY - continued, with more photographs.

On this LIMP History Page 0:

  HISTORY OF THE LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY - continued, with more photographs, and
  List of Toll Lodges and
  List of Toll Gates

On the LIMP History Page 1a:

  HISTORY OF THE LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY
        - continued, with more photographs.
  Who's Who (or Was) (moved from LIMP History Page 3 on 14 Jan 2002).

On the LIMP History Page 2:

  HISTORY OF THE LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY - continued, with more photographs.
  The General Manager's House.
  Sempre Vivolo (Brentwood Toll Lodge).

On the LIMP History Page 3@:

  Motor Parkway Historical Miscellany
  Motor Parkway Auto Tags/Plates

On the LIMP History Page 4:

  Oldest Parkway.
  Nassau County Police Photos (moved from page 2 on 21 Nov 2003).
  LIMPuzzle.   Widening the Parkway.

On the main LIMP page:

  HISTORY OF THE LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY - (continued hereon and on
  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY HISTORY PAGE 2), et seq.

LIMP Lodges Page:

  LIMP Toll Lodges
     : (or booths, kiosks, gates, or accesses) with
  List of LIMP Toll Lodges and
  List of LIMP Toll Gates.
  List of LIMP Accesses.

On Continuation Page 0:

  LIMP POSTS (and reinforced concrete).
  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY TIMELINE.
  LINKS to the LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY.
  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY BIBLIOGRAPHY.

On Continuation Page 1A:

  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY TODAY.
  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY BRIDGES.
  LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY at confluence of Marcus/Lakeville/NSParkway.

On Continuation Page 2:

  More on the Long Island Motor Parkway.
  Views of the Long Island Motor Parkway Today.
  I. U. Willets Road Fragment.
  Roslyn Road Fragment.
  Bridge at Old Bethpage Village Restoration.
  Horace Harding (of Boulevard fame).
  Open LIMP Matters - Questions and Speculations.

On Continuation Page 3:

  Crossings from Roslyn Road to the Maxess Road Bridge.

On Continuation Page 4:

  Old Courthouse Road Bridge, New Hyde Park.
  Garden City Toll Lodge.
  Crossings Continued - Maxess/Duryea Road Bridge.
  More on Duryea Road Crossing.

    On Continuation Page 5:

  LI MOTOR PARKWAY SPURS.
  PERSONAL LI MOTOR PARKWAY APOCRYPHA,
     and now continued on the LIMP Apocrypha Page.
  LEVITTOWN GRANDSTAND AREA.
  DEAD MAN'S CURVE REDIVIVUS.

On Continuation Page 6:

  LI MOTOR PARKWAY at WlLLISTON/ALBERTSON/SEARINGTOWN.
  Dubious Artifact at NSP/NHP Road.
  Queens Vignettes.

On Continuation Page 7:

  OLD BETHPAGE AREA Update.
  ROUTE 110 SAND PITS AREA Update.

On Continuation Page 8:

  North Hills.
  Mineola - Carle Place.

On the LIMP-Vanderbilt Cup Race page:

  (unindexed to date - please scroll away)

On the LIMP-Vanderbilt Cup Race continuation page 1:

  1909 LIRR Special VC Timetable.
  Other Vanderbilt Cup Maps. (moved from the main LIMP Vanderbilt Cup page on 18 Dec 2002)
  1908 Vanderbilt Cup Plaque Returns to Long Island
    (balance unindexed to date - please scroll away)


This is yet another new (14 Jan 2002) page to cover additional information and photographs of this interesting old highway; see also my Automotive, Chrysler, Dudgeon (really!), Mercedes, and SS and JAGUAR car pages and other related pages.

There is also a lot of automotive material on my ORDNANCE and HISTORY pages.

Also, if you like automotive history, see the links on the Automotive page.


RoW = Right-of-Way.


A Motor Parkway Panel
was convened to
    keep the Long Island Motor Parkway alive in Situ and in Minds and Museums.

  note-rt - effective 16 Feb 2011, the Motor Parkway Panel was disbanded and all activities thereof assumed by the
Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Society


William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.
(Courtesy of Northport Public Library)
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]

William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.
"Willie K."


LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY HISTORY - continued

History Page 1a

Motor Parkway Logo

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Vanderbilt Cup Race Disclaimer. - although the Vanderbilt Cup races are of interest, they are NOT the provenance of this site; see Disclaimer on main LIMP History page.

note-rt - The thumbnailed images on this page are adnmittedly simply TERRIBLE; the linked images are mostly fine, so click away, please!  I guess I really ought to do something about them - some one of these days.   new (18 Aug 2020)


TOLL LODGES

Here's what the Garden City Toll Lodge once looked like, in it's oriiginal location:   new.gif (21 Sep 04)

LIMP Gard City Toll Lodge - CoC
(Unprovenanced photo, by permission, altered by SB,III from one on Garden City Chamber of Commerce site - all rights reserved)

  (Moved from main LIMP History Page on 13 Feb 2002)

Deftly changing gears, we come up with a Socony map of the "Long Island Motor Parkway, Mineola, New York:" , featuring the Trianon Beach, "at end of Motor Parkway; shaded grove for basket parties, free boating, refreshments.  Duck dinners $2.00."  Showing "ROADS LEADING TO PARKWAY", it starts at the Hillside Ave. Lodge at Rocky Hill Road in today's Bayside in Queens (thus dating it after 1926) and runs through the other ten lodges, Great Neck Lodge (Lakeville Road in Lake Success), Roslyn Lodge (Roslyn Road), Jericho {Turn}Pike Lodge, Garden City Lodge (Clinton Street/Glen Cove Road), Meadow Brook Lodge (Merrick Avenue/today's Post Avenue), Massapequa Lodge (Massapequa Road (today's Route106), Bethpage Lodge (Manetto Hill Road{?}), Huntington Lodge (Round Swamp Road), Deer Park Lodge (Deer Park Avenue), Brentwood Lodge (Joshua's Path{?}), ending up out at the Ronkonkoma Lodge (Rosevale Avenue) and the Petit Trianon Restaurant* (also called "Inn* on some documents):

  * - described as "'Petit Trianon' Inn and Restaurant" in another brochure (post-Hillside extension).

Socony LIMP Map
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]


Departing from the Library exhibit, here's a more recent find (14 Aug 02), an undated, unsigned, hand-drawn chart of the "Vanderbilt {sic} Motor Parkway Toll Houses {sic}", as found in the records of the Town of North Hempstead:

N. Hemp. Lodges
(chart from Town of North Hempstead)
[Reduced image to fit screen; click on chart to see larger image, BUT,
before you do that and scroll - see immediately below*]

* - Rather than make you scroll all over that huge image, I've excerpted each lodge image separately, here.  Note, however, that on the original, there are no callouts for ROSLYN ROAD on the East Williston portion or for DONNA LANE on the Mineola portion; to preserve the original image, I added the callouts on the excerpts (only):

Garden City Lodge
(excerpt from Town of North Hempstead chart)

Mineola Lodge
(excerpt from Town of North Hempstead chart)

East Williston Lodge
(excerpt from Town of North Hempstead chart)

Lake Success Lodge
(excerpt from Town of North Hempstead chart)

Other than the common gaffes of calling the Parkway "Vanderbilt" and the Lodges "Houses", there is little to note on this chart, except that we know it post-dates the LIE and predates the March, 1989, move of the Garden City Lodge to downtown Garden City.


note-rt.gif  We should make a distinction here between "Toll Lodge" and "Toll Gate"; not all Toll Gates had accompanying Toll Lodges at all times.  See the 1929 LIMP brochure and map, on LIMP Tour page, for a then-current list of Toll Gates.  In at least one case (perhaps Great Neck and Hillside), at least for a time, the tollkeeper or his wife walked from the Lodge to the other gate.  Here is that list of gates, transcribed from the noted brochure:

TOLL GATES

    (Moved from main LIMP History Page on 13 Feb 2002) The folowing images are N.G.! =============================

Rocky Hill gate
ROCKY HILL TOLL GATE
(from Greater Astoria Historical Society brochure for R. Miller slide show)
{ca. 1928 or later (by autos)}
If I recall correctly, the Ronkonkoma gate was very much like this one, but set across the end of the LIMP at grade, whereas the RoW runs left-to-right across this picture, with the entry perpendicular to the RoW up on the crest of the embankment at Rocky Hill Road, in "T"-fashion.  This was the second western terminus, after expansion westward from Lakeville Road (Great Neck Gate) and before expansion west to 193rd Street and Horace Harding Boulevard (Flushing); most (if not all) intermediate gates and lodges had only one or two lanes.

Here's the other end, a picture of the last Western Terminus toll gate at Nassau Boulevard (Horace Harding Boulevard) in 1929 (enlarged from the brochure on the LIMP Tour page and below):

Nassau (HH) Blvd Gate
Nassau (Horace Harding) Boulevard Gate ca. 1929
(from 1929 brochure)

"Accessibility of Towns by Toll Gates"
[title and list from "LIMP and SUNRISE TRAILS
Main and Secondary Highways" map of 1929
in the 1929 "LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY, INC." brochure (below),
and maintaining the format and quaint hyphenation]:

Accessibility of Towns by Toll Gates
Great Neck Gate - Great Neck and
  Port Washington.
Roslyn Gate - Roslyn, Sea Cliff, Glen
  Cove and Locust Valley,
  East Williston.
Mineola Gate - Mineola, Jericho
  Turnpike.
Garden City Gate - Garden City
  Hempstead and Freeport Avi-
  ation Fields.
Meadow Brook Gate - Merrick,
  Westbury, Wheatley Hills.
Massapequa Gate - Hicksville, Jeri-
  cho, Massapequa.
Bethpage Gate - Farmingdale,
  Amityville, Cold Spring.
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Huntington Gate - Huntington,
  Centerport.
Deer Park Gate - Deer Park, Baby-
  lon, Northport.
Brentwood Gate - Brentwood, Bay-
  shore, The Islips, Smithtown.
Ronkonkoma Gate - Southerly to
  Montauk Highway to Sayville,
  Patchogue, The Hamptons and
  Montauk Point. Northerly to
  North Country Road to Port
  Jefferson, Riverhead, Green-
  port and Shelter Island.
Smithtown Gate - Jericho Turnpike,
  St. James, Smithtown and
  Middle Country Road.

[Remember that, although the Socony map is from 1926 or later (it has the western extension to Hillside), the LIMP brochure's map, although dated 1929, does not and there are some discrepancies in the lists and the names.]

I could not find the 1929 LIMP Brochure image anywhere else on my site (it's on the LIMP Tour page) so here it is, the map and a blowup of the gate list in the upper left corner (illegible though it be - hence the tabulation, above):

29 LIMP Brochure
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]

29 LIMP Gate List
[Provenance of images long lost.]

Well, now, where might that Smithtown Gate have been?  By elimination, it almost has to be the Commack (Harned Road) spur just east of Commack Road, putting one at the Jericho Turnpike (Middle Country Road to the east) southwest of Smithtown (right up Old Willets Path) and just west of the fork with Nesconset Highway (today's Route 347), which, in turn, leads to Port Jefferson and the North Country Road (today's Route 25A).

Here is a closer view of the LIMP part of the Socony map [images restored 27 Aug 2016]:

LIMP Detail of Socony Map
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]

This is the eastern Suffolk part of the Socony map, from Millers (sic) Place and Shoreham to Orient on the North Shore and from Bellport, Brookhaven, and the Moriches to the Hamptons, Sag Harbor, and Amagansett on the South Shore:

E. Suffolk Detail of Socony Map
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]

Now, here's the Long Island part of a Mobil map of the NY metro area from 1935 [Socony (Standard Oil Company of New York) became Socony-Vacuum, Socony-Mobil, and finally just Mobil - nope; now it's ExxonMobil#], courtesy of LIMP enthusiast Mitch Kaften (I hope to get higher-res. scans to put up in segments):

35 Mobil map - LI Detail
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for much larger image.]

[# - for other gasoline brands, see my Automotive page.]

Lastly, we have the large (and inaccessible and thus blurred and largely illegible) "Road Map of Long Island with LIMP overlay:

LI Road Map with LIMP Overlay
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for larger image.]

This appears to be one of the DeBeers maps of the late 1800s (available at any Nassau Museum shop) with a later overlay.

At the eastern end of the Motor Parkway, across Rosevale Avenue on the western shore of Lake Ronkonkoma, the Petit Trianon Restaurant/Inn was highly touted with flyers and ads, one of the latter is reproduced here, together with a menu:

Petit Trianon ad   Petit Trianon menu
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

The latter, although à la carte (literally), includes Filet Mignon for all of $1.00.

There was a dormitory for Parkway workers located just south of the Inn and in a similar architectural style; it still stands today, as a private (as in "KEEP OUT!") nursing home (it's still there* and I returned to take pictures).

* - Not any more, it isn't; it was torn down ca. 17 Feb 2006!   rev (05 Jun 2018)

Here is a Toll Lodge Daily Record Book, open to Sunday/Monday, January 8/9, 1928, recording that the weather was cloudy/rainy, the numbers of the last Green and Salmon tickets sold or collected {?}, and the number of tickets sold (Green at $1.00 and Salmon at .50) , and a LIMP Accident Report from what appears to be 04 July in 1925 at Brentwood, submitted by John Voras, stating that an Overland (later Willys/Jeep/Chrysler) apparently was forced over by another car that did not stop (the Ross "Sanitarium" {sic} is now South Oaks Hospital and Bob's Garage in Central Islip took the car away):

Daily Record Book   Accident Report
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

Here is a view of three rubber stamps sitting on the Daily Record Book in the Library showcase (for scale) and the three stamps themselves, with a tax stamp (PLUS TAX 5¢), a car and trailer stamp (THIS TICKET FIVE DOLLARS / GOOD FOR CAR AND TRAILER / SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS / PRINTED ON BACK OF TICKET) , and a one-way trip stamp (ONE TRIP TO LAKE RONKONKOMA / OR ONE TRIP TO HILLSIDE AVE.)
[the latter two also have a reversed image of the text so you can read them]:

Rubber Stamps on Daily Record Book   5¢ Tax Stamp
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

Car and Trailer Stamp

One Way Stamp
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

Here are four tickets, all signed by A. J. Kienzle, General Manager; No. 2632 dated APR-8, 1915, listing the Registry No. (28607 or 28667) at $1.50 (lavender), No. 2972 dated "JUL20, '22" (ochre), and No. 1799 dated ",OCT12,'23" (orange), both at $1.00 with "Wat Tax 10 Cents", all issued by the Brentwood Lodge, and No. 2858 dated "JUN 7-24 ", now at only 50 Cents plus "War Tax 5 Cents" (salmon), issued by the "WHEATLEY HILLS GOLF CLUB" (does that imply a private entrance ramp there?).

1915 Ticket   1922 Ticket

1923 Ticket   1924 Ticket
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

All above are N.G.! =================== The first three, bear warnings (varied) to the effect that "Auto{mobile}s when stopping must clear pavement with all wheels", "Do not stop or park autos on top or under bridges, or on approaches to bridges or on curves", "The making of fires through the wooded section is prohibited", and "Picnic parties please dispose of refuse and papers before leaving" (this last on the 1924 Golf Club ticket only, which also bears the imprint "Speed Limit 40 miles per hour").

Let me depart from the old exhibition to show you a full-year pass for the LIMP for 1932; this was issued to one Carl Ericson, Game Warden and signed by A. J. Kienzle as General Manager (the signature appears to have been printed) and is number 88.  However, a dash and the number 443 are hand-written after the printed "88"; I wonder what that is all about.  Here it is, obverse and reverse (with all the rules):   new.gif (20 Sep 04)

1932 Pass obverse 1932 Pass reverse
(pass images courtesy of C. Ericson's son via P. Masterson 20 Sep 2004 - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

The pass was loaned to MP Panel Friend Pat Masterson, who kindly scanned it for us on 20 Sep 2004, and it measures 3" x 5".

The reverse of the pass has an interesting tidbit; I don't know what Moses's speed limit was on Northern State Parkway in 1932, but it was only 35mph when I started driving in 1950, 5mph SLOWER than the LIMP from the western terminus to Wyandanch!

Back to the exhibition.

Now this is not a plate, but a rubber stamp reproduction of one, appearing on an envelope received from Ronald E. Ridolph, a Motor Parkway Panel member:

Repro LIMP Tag

Which would be a perfect segué into Who's Who, which followed, because the note from Ron Ridolph was on a reproduction of LIMP letterhead, but the page overloaded so it's now on the next page.


Who's Who on the Motor Parkway

  (or Who Was Who) - (on LIMP History Page 1.)

PHOTOGRAPHS

  (on LIMP History Page 2.)


Because the Main Page overloaded, please visit Continuation Pages listed on the LIMP Index Page.


LEGACY

  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.

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