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Central Railroad of Long Island
Continuation Page 4



(continuation page 4)

LIRR Keystone

[This page was added to my CENTRAL RAILROAD of LONG ISLAND page on 17 Mar 2004; you might wish to see that (et seq.) and the main LI Rail Road page, et seq., and the LI Railroads page, also.]

NOTE:  Page size was limited by HTML to some 30kB; thus, I was forced to add this continuation page to fit the LIRR and related information, as well as several other continuation pages.
You may wish to visit my RR page, as well.

There are two related topics here on these pages:
(1) The Long Island Rail Road and (2) Long Island railroad information.

There IS a difference!

The Long Island Rail Road is the official name of the oldest Class 1 railroad still operating under its original name and charter (the B&O was older but has been subsumed into CSX).  Although there remain some offical documents with the two words combined, the correct name of the LIRR has the two words separately:
"Long Island Rail Road"!

There were and are other railroads on Long Island - these also are
(or will be) covered on the LI Railroads page.

However, on this particular page we are specifically concerned with the
Central Railroad of Long Island, sometimes called the "Stewart Road"
or the "Stewart Line", part of which still serves as the
Central Branch of the Long Island Rail Road.


If these links don't work, click "back" and scroll down!

NOTE:  To conserve space, I have severely truncated the index on this page; see the LIRR index page.

    including LIRR boxcabs #401, the world's first production diesel road switcher,
    #402 (first and second), #403, and many others.

Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad,
    and its successor roads, the New York Cross Harbor Railroad and New York Regional Rail.

Degnon Terminal Railroad, etc.


On the (first) LIRR page:
    Long Island Sunrise-Trail Chapter (National Railway Historical Society)
    Sunrise Trail Division (Northeastern Region, National Model Railroad Association)
    Steam Locomotive #35 Restoration Committee

Restoration of Pennsy Class G5 Long Island Rail Road 4-6-0 #35
    Steam Locomotive #39 Restoration
(Railroad Museum of Long island)
Restoration of Pennsy Class G5 Long Island Rail Road 4-6-0 #39

On LIRR Continuation Page 1a:


On the LIRR Continuation Page 2:

Odd Incident at Wreck Lead (on the LIRR)
LIRR and LI Railroad Miscellany
Converted LIRR HEP/Cab Control Units
Central RR of LI - moved to this page 5 on 17 Dec 00.
Dashing Dan and Dottie

On the LIRR Continuation Page 3:

Nassau County Police 2nd Pct. Booth D/Locust Tower
Victorian Stations Still Standing on the LIRR

On the LIRR Continuation Page 4:

Blissville and Laurel Hill Sidings, Maspeth Yard, and Fresh Pond Yard
    and NY&AR/NYCRR Interchange info.
  LIRR MISCELLANY - continued

On the LIRR Continuation Page 5:

Central RR of LI - moved to this page 17 Feb 2002.
LIRR DE30AC and DM30AC Locomotives
Victorian LIRR Stations (continued)
    Locust Valley Station
    Glen Street Station (update)

On the LIRR Continuation Page 6:

Nassau County Police 2nd Pct. Booth D/Locust Tower (cont'd)

On the Central RR of LI Page:
    Central RR of LI - moved to LIRR Cont. Page 5 on 17 Dec 00,

and again on 17 Feb 02 to this separate CRRof LI page.
    Brief History of the Central RR of LI.

On Central RR of LI Continuation Page 1:
    Traces of the CRRofLI RoW in Flushing?.
    Central RR Bridge - photos moved to LIRR/CRR page 3 (01 Nov 02).
    Meadowbrook/Salisbury Plains Station.
    Bethpage Branch.

On Central RR of LI Continuation Page 2:
    General Bronze Sidings.
    Bethpage Junction "B" Tower.

On Central RR of LI Continuation Page 3:

Central RR Bridge - photos moved from LIRR/CRR page 1 (01 Nov 02).
Mitchel Field Aerial Views.
WWI Long Island Map.
CRRofLI Mystery Tunnel.

On this Central RR of LI Continuation Page 4:

More Mitchel Field Aerial Views.
Bethpage Junction Area "Map".

On the LI Railroads Continuation Page:

Long Island Railroads [with a link to the NYCRR (Hell Gate)]

On separate pages:

Long Island Live Steamers

The New York & Atlantic Railway, lessor of LIRR freight operations.

Railroad Eagles - Penn Station, Grand Central Terminal, etc.

Long Island Rail Road Historical Society.

Long Island Live Steamers (LILS)

A great group of miniature live steam (and diesel and electric) operators running at mostly 1" scale (also some 1" and rare 3/4") in Southhaven Park at the intersection of William Floyd Parkway (Suffolk County Route 46) and Sunrise Highway (U.S. Route 27); their site with their PUBLIC RUNNING SCHEDULE and some other live steam links, has been moved to a separate page.

Central Railroad of Long Island (continued)

[Continued from the     main CRRofLI page Page,
    CRRofLI Continuation Page 1,
    CRRofLI Continuation Page 2, and the
    CRRofLI Continuation Page 3]

PREVIOUS APOLOGY - This page was perhaps the worst impacted of any of my pages by AT&T's treachery
but I have been able, finally, to restore all the images.   rev (28 Jul 2014)

To add to all the coverage on the preceding page, Long Island Motor Parkway Panel Associate Howard Kroplick sent an 11 Feb 1937 aerial view of the entire Mitchel Field complex from just E of Clinton Street (the fomer Curtiss Field) to Merrick Avenue; in this view, Roslyn is in the upper left corner, New Cassell in the upper right, Uniondale in the lower left, and East Meadow in the lower right, Hempstead Turnpike runs across the bottom, and the LIMP across the center (this appears to be a US Army Air Corps picture):

(1937 Aerial photo courtesy H. Kroplick - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for VERY much larger (1.1Mb) image]

There is such an incredible amount of material on this image that I dassn't process it and am using up enormous on-line memory to present it in full.  To avoid obscuring anything of interest, I have marked up a duplicate copy which follows; on it, the LIRR Main Line is noted "LI" and the Central Branch is noted "C", one can make out Clarence MacKay's extravagant Harbor Hill [HH] atop Roslyn at upper left, Mitchel Field, with it's extant parade ground [PG], Roosevelt Flying Field [RFF] with the Old Westbury Golf Club in its SW corner [OW], the 1937/38 (George) Vanderbilt Cup course [V] with its twin access bridges over the LIMP (below the "V") leading to the ¾-mile long main grandstand (running diagonally between the "V" and the "L"), the Meadowbrook Club [MC] with its huge polo stadium [P] and its private LIRR Salisbury Plains station on the Central Branch [C], and the LIMP Meadowbrook Toll Lodge [MT].  Running W-to-E (left-to-right) across the photo are the LIMP [L] (upper), Stewart Avenue [S] (middle), and the Central Branch [C] (lower):

(1937 Aerial photo courtesy H. Kroplick - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image; click on picture for VERY much larger (1.1Mb) image]

Other details and an alphabetical key are on LIMP Central Nassau continuation page 1; some of that key follows:
C - LIRR Central Branch (former Central RR of LI)
J - Jericho Turnpike
LI -LIRR Main Line
MA - Merrick Avenue (in East Meadow) / Post Avenue (in Westbury)
MC - Meadowbrook Club
MT - Meadowbrook Toll Lodge
O - Old Country Road
S - Stewart Avenue
V - George Vanderbilt 37/38 Cup Course
WN - Whaleneck Road {?}

Here is the entire W-E segment of the LIMP, Stewart Avenue, and the Central Branch:

[Thumbnail image left; click on picture for larger image]

Extracting from that, these are three major segments,,slightly overlapped); from just E of Clinton (the former Curtiss Field in lower left) to the E end of Mitchel Field, central Mitchel (above the parade ground, with polo fileds beyond), and Mitchel to Merrick Avenue:




Now to the Merrick Avenue area with with Merrick running diagonally from upper left to lower right, under the LIMP bridge, and the Meadowbrook Club [MC] and the Central's Salisbury Plains station at right and the Meadowbrook Toll Lodge [MT] at upper left:


Going further into this matter than for the LIMP, and artificially lightening the image to show more detail in the bridge area [B], this is the CRR at Salisbury Plains station, showing the station (arrow) just across the CRR RoW from the club [MC]:


Finally, enlarging and lightening even further, this shows the two CRR bridges; the one at left is over what I believe to be Whaleneck Road and the one at right over what I believe to be a tributary of the Meadow Brook:


From the placement, I'd have bet the one on the right is the one still standing in the Meadowbrook Parkway loop but, from the angle and the silver paint, I guess I'd have been wrong.

Thanks indeed, Howard; little did you know to what these chance LIMP/CRR conjunctions would lead!

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Similarly, fellow member of the Sunrise Trail Chapter of the National Railway Historical Society Al Castelli sent me this portion of a larger "map" pertaining to the Bethpage area of the CRR but it has lots of details about the Motor Parkway!  It is from a Bethpage Fire Department fund drive "map" from 1994, printed on brown parchment-type paper with old photos from Central Park/Bethpage and the inside opened to a "map" (really more of a diagram) of the area in the 1930-40's, including the Bethpage Spur and the turntable.

Again, it is so full of information that I am reproducing both the two segments Al sent AND a carefully-pieced full image (within one or two pixels of an exact match, all 1.2Mb of it), all thumbnailed:

BethpageJunctMap BethpageJunctMap
(1994 "map" from the collection of A. Castelli - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed images; click on pictures for larger images]

(1994 "map" courtesy of A. Castelli - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnailed image; click on picture for 1.2Mb image]

I'll try to get the missing margins and add them.

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Speaking of the Nassau Brick Works, on the Bethpage Spur, how many people have ever even seen a Nassau brick?  I just happen to have one in my piles of bricks (doesn't EVERYONE have piles of bricks?) and I finally remembered to dig it out and photograph it:

(22 Nov 2005 photo by and © 2005 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

That brick is a "new" brick, slightly battered and dirty, to be sure, but unused; I have no clue how old it might be (more on Nassau Brick). (18 Aug 2007)

[This page was added to my CENTRAL RAILROAD of LONG ISLAND page, et seq., on 17 Mar 2004; you might wish to see that and the main LI Rail Road page, et seq., and the LI Railroads page, also.]

You may wish to visit the Railroad Continuation Page, et seq.

of this series of Railroad pages.


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.

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of this series of LIRR pages.

To tour the Long Island railroads pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the previous page to the LIRR index, to the first LIRR page, and on to pages 2 and up, then to the other LI railroads page, and lastly to the LIRR Historical Society page.


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