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Updated:   03 Oct 2011, 13:25  ET
[Page created 29 Apr 2000; converted 03 Oct 2011;

(Some lost images restored 24 and 30 Oct and 12 Nov 2003)
    original AT&T Worldnet Website begun 30 May 1996.]
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S. Berliner, III
Consultant in Ultrasonic Processing
"changing materials with high-intensity sound"

[consultation is on a fee basis]

Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher

note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

{Many images lost; see Problem}

S. Berliner, III's

Long Island
Continuation Page 2

note-rt - I moved from Long Island to Massachusetts in July 2010
and these pages may not be kept current.

Page Index

On the main Long Island page:
Long Island (and related) Links.
Long Island Studies Institute.
Long Island's Original Inhabitants (Native Americans/Indians).
Walt Whitman.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 0 (material moved 17 Mar 04):

Long Island (and related) Links.
Long Island's Original Inhabitants (Native Americans/Indians).
Culluloo Telawana (last of the Rockaway Indians).
Inisfada - St. Ignacius Retreat House.
Gould Gatehouse.
Bella Vista Auto Enthusiasts Hangout.

On the Long Island Continuation Page 1:

1906 Hyde Map of Long Island
Long Island's Original East End.
Rock Hall.
Lord's Woods.
Long Island Questions.

On this Long Island Continuation Page 2:

Suydam Homestead (Suydam House and Barn Museum).
Oyster Bay - village, town, ship.
Sea Cliff
Great Paths - Indian Trails to Highways
1918 Topo Map of Nassau County

On the Long Island Continuation Page 3:

Long Island Automotive Manufacturing(moved to page 3 on 04 Jun 2003)

[See the disclaimer on the History page and AUTHORITY on my Home Page.]

This page was separated out from my main Long Island page
and none are restricted to just the history of Long Island.

[See the disclaimer on the History page and AUTHORITY on my Home Page.]


A great place to live, to explore
(and to go broke)!

[It's upscale and expensive and getting more so every day.
What will happen to all those affluent middlemen and .com-ers
and their flashy showpiece homes when the bubble breaks?]

DIRECTIONAL NOTE: - Long Island actually aligns west-southwest by east-northeast but locals use "north" to mean compass north-northwest, etc.

Long Island, called Paumanok by the local Algonkian Native Americans (13 "tribes" of them), is shaped like a whale running east to west, with the twin forks as the tail flukes facing east towards England, which is why it was nicknamed the Sunrise Homeland by developers between the wars:

LI Outline Map
(Map by and © 2000 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{restored 24 May 03}

Manhattan is to the far left (west) across the East River (actually only a tidal estuary) and New York City, which encompasses Manhattan, Staten Island, and the Bronx, also includes Brooklyn [the lower left (southwest) corner of Long Island and Queens [the upper left (northwest) corner of the Island.  Connecticut is to the top (north) across Long Island Sound, with Rhode Island to its east, diagonally upper-right (northwest).  Peconic Bay is between the forks and the Atlantic Ocean is at the bottom (south), beyond the Great South Bay, enclosed by the long string of barrier beaches - Coney Island at the far left (west), Rockaway Beach, Atlantic Beach, Long Beach Jones Beach, Fire Island, the Hamptons, and finally Montauk Point itself at the far right (east).  The north fork ends at Orient Point, with Plum Island just offshore and Gardiners Island between the points.

Ketcham-Underhill House

note-rt.gif - The price of liberty may be eternal vigilance; unfortunately, here on Long Island, it is also the price of preservation.  Here is all that's left of the beautiful old (ca. 1800) Ketcham-Underhill farmhouse (above) on the south side of the Jericho Turnpike (Jericho Run Farm, 555 Jericho Turnpike) at the crest of the hill between Routes 106/107 and Robbins Lane in Jericho after vandals torched it:

Ketcham-Underhill SE Ketcham-Underhill NE
(26 Dec 03 photos and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on pictures for larger images.]

Left - looking SE; right - looking NE.

{More on this disaster to follow.}

Developers are already working on the 9 acres of farmland to the immediate south of this house; the house was only considered for landmark status by the Town of North Hempstead in January of this year after the usual acrimonious hassle.  There is an 1890 Underhill house at the south of the property which will be restored and a ca. 1800 barn which will be (or has been) torn down!

I am not about to document every single feature on Long Island but some stand out locally.  One is the old Duryea mansion in Glen Cove; Duryea was the starch king, with a huge plant down on the Creek.  Duryea Starch went on to become Corn Products and then CPI.  The mansion is located on top of the highest hill, overlooking all of Hempstead Harbor (or it did before the trees grew); here it is from the east and from the northeast (great porch!):

Duryea E Duryea NE
(photos 11 May 02 and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{images restored 24 Oct 03}
[Thumbnail images - click on pictures for larger images.]

Down on Charles Street, across Glen Cove Avenue from the site of the starch works, at the foot of the hill, are some prime examples of Victorian elegance (some gone to seed, others kept up or restored); one of my favorites is this gem, with its cast iron crown repaired:

CharlesSt1 CharlesSt2 CharlesStCloseUp
(photos 11 May 02 and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{images restored 24 Oct 03}
[First two images thumbnailed - click on pictures for larger images.]

Another jewel, at which I was forced to undergo "tea" with my mother lo these many moons when it was a tea room, is the old (1701) Roslyn Grist Mill; bought by Samuel Onderdonk in 1759 and run by him until around 1801 (his nearby home, at the end of the block, on the right, is now the Washington Manor).  The mill became a tea room in 1916, closed ca. 1960, and sits derelict, awaiting restoration by Nassau County (which, of course, is broke).  Here it sits, on the west bank of the creek, on the north side of Northern Boulevard (Route 25A, which has been raised 'way above its original grade):

RoslynMill1 RoslynMill2
(photos 11 May 02 and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{images restored 24 Oct 03}
[Thumbnail images - click on pictures for larger images.]

Oops!  I forgot the neighboring famed 1895 Roslyn Clock Tower!  It's just out of the picture at the end of the block, on the left; here it is:   rev (03 Oct 2011)

RoslynTower-old RoslynTower-current
(Photos and history from Joan Berger, East Hills School, Roslyn, New York - all rights reserved)

The 44' (13.4m) tower was built in 1895 in memory of Ellen Eliza Ward; it was built from granite with red sandstone trimmings, brick-lined walls - 2' 6" (76cm) thick, the bell weighs 2,700 pounds, and the clock made by Seth Thomas Manufacturing Co.   new (03 Oct 2011)

Suydam Homestead
(Suydam House and Barn Museum)

On the south side of Route 25A at 1 Fort Salonga Road in Centerport [diagonally across from the firehouse, on the northeast end of Broadway, opposite the south end of Little Neck Road (MapQuest is WRONG!)], the Greenlawn-Centerport Historical Association runs the Suydam House and Barn Museum.  Built ca. 1730, the house displays "redware'' and china found during restoration.

Here's where it is:

(Map by and © 2006 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

My Oct 2000 photos were lost and I stopped by to shoot more on 29 Oct 2003.  The house is set on an angle to the roads; the headings given here are approximate.  This is the house from across Route 25A, looking southwest and then southeast:

Suydam SW) Suydam SE)
(29 Oct 03 photos by a © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for larger images]

[That is NOT a modern window on the front right
(northwest) corner; it is a banner for a show.]

Then, walking (VERY carefully) across to the south side of 25A, here is the side of the house to the northeast and the back of the house to the northwest:

Suydam NE Suydam Back NW
(photos 29 Oct Oct 03 by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for larger images]

Continuing around, here's other side wall to the west and, turning around, there's the barn to the southeast:

Suydam W Suydam Barn SE
(photos 29 Oct 03 by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail images - click on photos for larger images]

I have been dealing with a California hobby firm of the name Suydam (and its successor) for some 40 years now and the name is pronounced "Sigh'-dam", but a local here says the name of the house is pronounced "Sud'um"; ???

The Greenlawn-Centerport Historical Association is headquartered at the Harborfields Library, 31 Broadway, Greenlawn, 631-754-1180.

They have not only put up their own site (linked above) but have added a Suydam House page, replete with interior photos, old views, and a full history of the house.  Stabilization and restoration of the house is now complete [the cedar shake roof was expertly and painstakingly restored by my son-in-law, a roofing contractor (Quail Contracting, Northport - shameless plug!)].

Oyster Bay - village, town, ship

Not only is Oyster Bay a village, with Teddy Roosevelt's Sagamore Hill home and summer White House, it is also a town in Nassau County, and a the name of a ship, the WWII PT Boat tender AGP-6.  The U.S.S. Oyster Bay was originally laid down as a seaplane tender, AVP 28, but was converted for PT boat tender service commissioned as such on 17 Nov 43; she served in the South Pacific until decommisioned on 26 Mar 1946 and was turned over to the Italian government on 23 Oct 57 (the "Pietro Cavezzale"), finally being decommissioned in Oct 1993 and scrapped in Feb 1996.

Oyster Bay station - see the Long Island Rail Road pages 5, 7, and 8 for detailed coverage of the Oyster Bay LIRR station under Victorian Stations Still Standing on Long Island, notably also East Williston and Sea Cliff.

Sea Cliff

Sea Cliff (along with Northport) is a Victorian jewel set in the North Shore along Long Island Sound; it is "One Square Mile" of Victorian Gingerbread and Carpenter Gothic houses facing west to Sands Point across Hempstead Harbor and north to the Mamaroneck area of Westchester.  Here are a few random examples of my favorite Sea Cliff architecture; the big white house was one of the many hotels that dotted the area at the turn of the 19th-20th Centuries when Sea Cliff was a fashionable watering spot.  Before that, it was a German Methodist camp ground with many streets set out in tiny tent plots; many plots are still that size, with tiny bungalows on them and two of those are shown here:

(Pictures 26 Apr 02 by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)
[Thumbnail images; click on pictures for larger images.]

Only two blocks east of Sea Cliff, on the southwest corner of Sea Cliff Avenue and Perkins Court, lies one of Glen Cove's many golf courses, but this one is certainly the smallest (one hole!):


(Pictures 12 Nov 03 by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - All Rights Reserved)

A few miles east of Sea Cliff, just past Locust Valley and hard up against Bayville to the north and Oyster Bay to the southeast, lies beautiful Mill Neck.  Mill Neck has many magnificent structures but one of the most fascinating for me has always been this fancy on the east side of Brookville Road opposite the Francis Ponds:

Mill Neck Fancy
(23 Sep 02 photo by and © 2002 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

You can barely make it out at the left under the landing but there is a spiral staircase winding around the little tower.

Great Paths - Indian Trails to Highways

On page A30 of Monday's (04 Nov 2002) NEWSDAY, Cynthia Blair refers to Cedar Swamp Road (NY State Route 107) as "one of the nation's oldest roads".  I had always thought that Broadway in Manhattan and beyond (Bowery to Albany) had that premier distinction and the that Indian (Native American) "Great Paths" on Long Island were right in there with it.

They include the North Hempstead Turnpike/Northern Boulevard (Route 25A), Jericho Turnpike (Route 25), Old Country Road, Hempstead Turnpike (Route 24), Sunrise Highway (Route 27), and Merrick Road/Montauk Highway (Route 27A).

Realizing to my dismay that I could no longer remember the full list, I went first to NEWSDAY's book, "Long Island - Our Story", and found "Great Paths" not indexed.  Global searching on the Net was fruitless.  I can always resort to my Public Library, but feel that we've missed the boat here.

I don't even know if Cedar Swamp Road, or any north-south road, was on the list.  If Route 107, for example, which runs south-southeast from Glen Cove down to Jericho at Jericho Turnpike and beyond down to Massapequa, how about Route 106, which runs south-southwest from Oyster Bay to intersect with 107 in Jericho and then on down to Merrick Road in Merrick?

Those turnpikes were known as "The North Hempstead Turnpike", "The Jericho Turnpike", etc., into this just-past century.  Similarly, we have "The Sunrise Highway" and "The Montauk Highway".

Just in case you didn't know, a turnpike is so called because they were originally toll roads and were blocked by a pike (a variant on a spear) which was placed across the road on posts and turned to allow passage on payment of the toll.

So, here's my initial list (north-to-south):

North Hempstead Turnpike/Northern Boulevard (Route 25A), from Queens Plaza in Long Island City, just east of the 59th Street (Queensborogh) Bridge, to the merge with Route 25 in Smithtown.

Jericho Turnpike/Middle Country Road (Route 25), from its initiation as Queens Boulevard, also at Queens Plaza, then Jamaica Avenue, all the way out to the far end of the North Fork at Orient Point.

Old Country Road, running from Herricks Road in Garden City to Jericho Turnpike in the Dix Hills.

Hempstead Turnpike (Route 24), from the merge with Jamaica Avenue in Queens Village, 212th Place) to Broad Hollow Road (Route 110) in Farmingdale, where it came to a screeching halt at Republic Aviation; now that the road continues across the field, I have no idea what's being done about the number.  In my opinion, the great path continued as today's Long Island Avenue/Brentwood Road/Third Avenue/Suffolk Avenue (Suffolk County Route 100), etc., all the way out to Medford at Horseblock Road (County Route 16).

Sunrise Highway (Route 27) starts as Conduit Boulevard at Atlantic Avenue in East New York, Brooklyn, and runs all the way to the merger with the Montauk Highway (as County Route 85) between Southampton and Water Mill, where it finally cedes it's identity to the Montauk Highway.

Merrick Road/Montauk Highway (Route 27A) starts at Hillside Avenue (at 168th Street) in Jamaica, Queens, and runs just north ot Sunrise Highway (27) until it crosses Sunrise in Rockville Center and runs just south of Sunrise until they merge in Oakdale and then diverges and continues in various guises (County Routes 80 and 85) until the two roads finally merge for the last time between Southampton and Water Mill, and run all the way out to Montauk Point, the easternmost point of the South Fork (and Long Island) as Route 27.

If the N-S and diagonal roads were also great paths, then I'd bet that Horseblock Road, running east-southeast from Middle County Road (Route 25) in Centereach to the Sunrise Highway (27) in Shirley, was one.

A bit of research should add to (and, perhaps, correct) this list.

Long Island Automotive Manufacturing

Great paths only became highways because of the introduction of the automobile.  Long Island was right in there with the best of them when it came to early pioneering efforts to produce automobiles and motor trucks.  I have moved this coverage to Long Island Continuation page 3.

The Long Island Motor Parkway had twelve little toll lodges and several other rather more significant structures (some still standing) designed by noted architect John Russell Pope; Pope also did other work on Long Island.  A little more on him is given at John Russell Pope on LIMP page 12.

1918 Topo Map of Nassau County

A LI Motor Parkway enthusiast sent me the 1918 Camp Mills Quadrangle, a WWI overprint of the 1918 reprint of the south half of the 1897 Oyster Bay Quadrangle and the north half of the 1897 Hempstead Quadrangle; here they are, in four quadrants (NW, NE, SW, and SE) running from LI Sound down to the Atlantic Ocean, soaking up inconceivable amounts of memory (~12Mb!):

1897/1918 Camp Mills NW 1897/1918 Camp Mills NE
1897/1918 Camp Mills SW 1897/1918 Camp Mills SE
(1918 Camp Mills Quadrangle topo map surveyed 1897) [Thumbnail images - click on pictures for huge (2-3Mb) images (and wait!)]

I posted this map (these quadrants), with lots of overlap partly because I'm lazy and didn't edit them yet and partly because of the tremendous interest these offer for the history of both the geo-political area and for transportation (rail, auto, and air).

The LI Motor Parkway had not yet been built when the 1897 USGS survey was done and the 1918 reprint oddly enough did not include it, even though it was a valuable artery out to the flying fields overprinted on the map and a great landmark for flyers.

Please note that a similar map, overprinted for aviation in World War I, but covering the whole island, is shown on my Long Island Motor Parkway maps page and that there are many other old Long Island maps scattered all over my Motor Parkway pages, the main LIMP page, et seq.

I also have scans of 1942-43 Topographic Quad maps of much of Long Island, which I will eventually doctor to show the LI Motor Parkway and post (with notice here).

See also the Fairchild Aerial Survey page.

Stay tuned!


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