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Model Railroad Continuation Page 6


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Continuation of SB,III's MODEL RAILROADING Page, et seq.

NOTE:  My pages were limited by AT&T, without warning, to 30kB!  Thus, I was forced to add this continuation page and separate pages to fit the lengthy Berlinerwerke saga in HO and Z scales.


[To conserve space, this index has been truncated by removing some detail links;
go to the pages indicated - they are each indexed fully.]

On the MAIN mrr page:

    Sunrise Trail Division (STD) of the
        Northeastern Region (NER) of the
        National Model Railroad Association (NMRA)
    Long Island - Sunrise Trail Chapter (LIST) of the
        National Railway Historical Society (NRHS)
    Long Island Live Steamers,     and model railroading miscellany at the end.

On MRR Continuation Page 2:

    Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model
(continued on MRR page 5):

Marion River Carry Railroad.
    (now moved to its own page)

Degnon Terminal Railroad, plus
    Murrer's Sidings
    Kearney Sidings
    as well as (on an LIRR page):
  Blissville/Laurel Hill,
Blissville Sidings
Laurel Hill Sidings
    and Maspeth and Fresh Pond -
Maspeth Yard
Fresh Pond Yard

The Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad segment was moved to its own separate page on 07 Sep 99.

New York & Atlantic Railway.

On MRR Continuation Page 3:

Model Railroading Miscellany
PRR/Wrong Island #007 Cabin Car
Garden Railway Scales
Making a Stacker from a Front End Loader
Berlinerwerke-ALCo RSD-1m
Model Railroading HELP!

On MRR Continuation Page 4:

Great Northern/Western Fruit Express Reefers -
    (moved to MRR page 4 on 07 May 01).
Railroad Grades
Model Railroad Photography
More Model Railroad Miscellany, with
    Hobbytown of Boston (Bear Locomotive Co.).

On the preceding page 5:

Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model - continued
Atlas Terminals RR

On this page 6:

Life-Like ALCo DL-109.

Homage to Bill Schopp.

Wayner Photos.

On MRR Continuation Page 7:

Oyster Bay Marine Turntable
    (moved from RR Page 3 and greatly amplified 07 Jun 2004).
HOMABED® Roadbed.

On the Great Northern/Western Fruit Express Page:

Great Northern/Western Fruit Express Reefers
    (moved to MRR page 4 from the main page 07 May 2001
    and to this page 10 Nov 2004).

On Z-Scale pages:

    Z-Scale Narrow Gauge (really)
    Scale and Gauge
    Scale Conversion Table
    Ztrack Magazine
    Z-Scale Miscellany
    Z-Scale Wiring Conventions
    Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
    and much more on Page 2 and noted below.
    Sub-Z-Scale Page with
Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains and even 1:900 Tiniest Trains!

[To conserve space even further, the index for material on separate pages has been removed; see the main model RR page.

Visit the courtesy and official home pages listed in the index on the main MRR page.

You may also wish to jump to SB,III's RAILROAD Page.

(continuation of Model RR Page, et seq.)

How would you like to replace a missing articulation truck for a rare, ancient Lionel UP M-10000 streamliner?  This one was in my old house, hidden away among hardware on the top of the main beam in the cellar and turned up when I cleaned up prior to moving in 1968 and I've had it hanging around ever since:

Lionel M-10000 Truck
(21 Sep 2003 photo by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

It's complete, original, and in working order but a little tired; make me an offer I can't refuse and it's yours.

Life-Like ALCo DL-109

Life-Like came out with a Proto 1000 model (cast-on detail) of the DL-109 in plastic in January 2003, Southern #6400 in this case.  I needed another diesel, even an ALCo, like a hole in the head, but, after reading Ken Goslett's almost-unbelievable review in "Railroad Model Craftsman", pp. 107-110 of the march 2003 issue, I ran right out to get one.  Forget it, Charlie; they'd come out two weeks before and sold out instantly.  I happened to be on a different part of Long Island, where there is a big discount house and I stopped by; they didn't have the Santa Fé warbonnet or New Haven olive and gold, so I got this gorgeous Southern #6400.  Ken raved about how heavy, yet smooth, powerful, yet quiet, and long, yet trac(k)table it is.  Fresh out of the box, mine started at well under the 2.5V Ken observed; more like 1.5V and drew next to no amps.  It was so smooth and ran so effortlessly that I hooked up a horrible string of seven 40-year old lighted Athearn heavyweights which won't even roll on a steep downgrade, plus a 30-year old MEW express reefer that is almost as recalcitrant, which normally draw in excess of 2 amps with a stock Athearn loco, and the DL-109 accelerated them smoothly up to speed with only a half amp draw!  What a thrill to see them flying around the layout after so many years (and the loco didn't even heat up)!

Even pulling that awful load, the loco was smooth and quiet; in fact my only complaint is that the headlight is so dim that it didn't light up the rails ahead on the layout, even at 12V, when I cranked my dimmers all the way down, which I dearly love to do on rare occasions with Atlas or Kato units.

Although rated as Proto 1000 because of the cast-on detail, that detail is incredible and those enormously-long truck sideframes incredibly well detailed, even to free-standing brake cylinders and rods!  The whole loco is enormous!  It's the same length as the ALCohaulic (diesel-hydraulic) or an EMD FP-45 and dwarfs its successor, the ALCo PA!  For a model I didn't really need, it sure pleases me.

Life-Like Proto 1000 DL-109
(07 Feb 03 photo by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

For more on the prototype, see ALCo continuation page 1.

Homage to
Bill Schopp

The late, great Bill Schopp was a great hero of my mis-spent youth; a famed kitbasher or cross-kitter.  "Kitbasher" or "cross-kitter" are not really the right terms; Bill was noted as a fearless cobberer of already-built brass models; there was no brass that was sacred to him; he (S)chopped them up with great abandon to create models of locomotives that were otherwise unavailable and I had the honor of sitting with him once while he explained some of his techniques, which can be summed up in one pat phrase (mine):


Perhaps Bill should be called a BRASSBASHER (extraordinaire)!

Most of Bill's output was featured fairly regularly in early issues of RMC.

Here, courtesy of the late Hal Carstens, is Bill's 1974 obituary:

"SCHOPP, WILLIAM M.  Trenton, New Jersey.  Model railroad author, Railroad Model Craftsman, Toy Trains, others. (prolific).  Wrote over 1000 model railroad articles.  Pseudonyms John Kemp, Bill Willmore, Layout Doctor.  Consultant to Penna Scale Models, other mfrs.  Custom locomotive builder; layout designer.  Pioneer HOn3, HOn2, traction modeler.  HO Moonlight & Violins Ry.  Teacher.  Graduate State Teachers College 1937, Columbia U. 1941.  Born 1913, died Mar. 23, 1974.  NMRA PIONEER 1995."

Hal Carstens, noted primarily as the head honcho of Carstens Publications ( Railroad Model Craftsman, Railfan & Railroad), was also a big-time fan of camelback locos and has quite a collection of them, as he periodically reminds us in RMC.  He just hit the mother lode!  Through some wheeling and dealing, he is now the proud owner of one of Bill Schopp's finest creations, a who-knows-what, out-Schopped as an Erie J-1 camelback Decapod:

Schopped Erie J-1 Dec
(Cropped from May 2003 photo by H. H. Carstens - all rights reserved)

Whadda monster!  This ancient baby is misnumbered and Hal is sending it out for repainting and renumbering as the correct #2501.

However, that number, 2506, rang a bell!  It finally came to me; I had hailed a Checker Cab with that number when I went out to Fredon to visit Hal one time years back.  Fortunately, I had a camera with me and took a photo for posterity:   new.gif (25 Jul 2003)

Erie J-1 Dec Checker Cab
(Conceived and executed 25 Jul 03 by the Berlinerwerke Art Dept;
© 2003 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Col. Carstens (I didn't say what kind of pipe or what's in it)!

Actually, that's only a preliminary photo; it was brought forcibly to my attention (thanks, Karen) that means of passenger ingress and egress were somewhat awkward and some research brought to light the production version of the crew cab (or is that a king cab?):

Erie J-1 Dec Checker Cab 2
(Revised 16 Nov 03 by the Berlinerwerke Art Dept;
© 2003 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Well, now (05 Apr 04)!  Hal Carstens got the J-1 back from the repair and paint shop (as the proper #2501) and it is magnificent:

Rebuilt Schopp Erie J-1 Dec
(Cropped from Apr 2004 photo courtesy of H. H. Carstens - all rights reserved)

Hal thought it well may be the only J-1 model extant; what a pity he couldn't afford to have them clean it up; it came back all dirty!

On the subject (Hal's favorite) of Erie camelbacks, here's Phil Goldstein's L-1 0-8-8-0 monster (26 Oct 2005):

P. Goldstein ERR L-1 0-8-8-0 #2601
(Photo by and courtesy of P. Goldstein - all rights reserved)

Phil, member of the U&DRRHS / BEDT #14 restoration crew, scratched this beast.

True to Bill's fearless lead (if nowhere near his craftsmanship), I also enjoy Out-Schopping brass (and more mundane materials); for a few examples, see my famed DDP-45, PRR Z6s Arctic 4-2-2, and a whole slew Z-scale mini-locos and a powered Z-scale M-U car.  There's also some of my other strange EMD F/FP-45 variants and a hint of a very-long-dragging secret Out-Schopping project down at the bottom of my Berlinerwerke Saga page 2 following "Don't even ask what the Statue Delivery is doing in there!" and following "and (oops!) one of my secret Pennsy steamers:".

One brass steamer I am NOT going to Schopp up is my original Tenshodo NYC J-3a Hudson!  It's a magnificent model, old, a bit crude, and battered (as I obtained it), but it is powerful and smooth and so delicately sprung that it glides effortlessly over frogs and points and gaps, swaying and lurching slightly just like the real thing:

Tenshodo J-3a
(05 Oct 03 photo by and © 2003 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

and here it is riding up over a rusty X-Acto blade (0.025"/0.635mm) [a necessary feature for any good HO loco, eh?  :·)  ]  Just look at that beautiful articulation:

Tenshodo J-3a
(06 Oct 2003 photo by and © 2003 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Timken Roller Bearing Car

In my first HO setup as an adult(?), ca. 1965-70, not my pre-teen layout, I had a craftsman-type wooden model of a 40' Timken Roller Freight car which got badly damaged; I thereupon burned it up (adult?) to use as a bad-order car.  Unfortunately, the decals were pieced and scorched selectively, so the appearance was then rather patchwork and the car languishes (I still have it, somewhere; it turned up in the oddest place recently and then again vanished).  I had looked in nooks and crannies; it was sitting the whole time out in plain sight on a bad-order track (i.e.: a scrap of old track) with one disintegrated truck frame (09 Dec 05):

(08 Dec 2005 photo by and © 2005 - S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Perhaps ca. 1970, Athearn came out with a 40' stubby hi-cube car and, lo and behold, it had "working" Timken roller bearing trucks under it; actually, the axles protruded through the journals and had minature Timken 3-bolt caps which could be seen turning!

Then, perhaps ca. 1980, Athearn (?) came out with that old 40' Timken Roller Freight car, this time in plastic, but with ordinary dummy roller bearing trucks.  DING!  Off came the trucks on the hi-cube and Timken cars, presto-changeo - el swappo, and I then had (and still have) a Timken car with "working" bearings!  Here's a low-res. picture of the car with the substituted trucks, one of the trucks close up, and a journal and bearing cap even closer:

Timken 1

Timken 2

Timken 3
(14 Nov 2003 photos by and © Copyright 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

[These are substitute photos and must be reshot yet again!]

Note that if you look very closely at the journal face, which measures a whopping 1/8" (3.2mm) across, you can actually read the words "TIMKEN" equi-spaced thrice circumferentially around the face!

Truthfully, those trucks don't roll worth a good G-- D--- (certainly not compared to modern needle-point axles in acetal frames), but they DO roll and the axle caps DO turn and they sure look good doing so!

{Moved from MRR Page 4 on 12 Nov 2003}

My original Mantua was red; Menzies made them in both red and yellow.


Robert J. Wayner, author/publisher of Giants of the Rails - An Articulated Steam Pictorial, also put out Railroad Work Equipment and Special Service Cars, which slim volume is just chock-a-bloc full of oddball cars for the jaded modeler.

A sampling of those of most interest to me follows.  Some are repeated, and others appear, elsewhere in my RR pages where they are of specific interest.  Where appropriate, I have linked other of my pages on which the specific area of interest is covered in more detail.  Those posted here are in no particular order, other than by Wayner's pagination and image location:

Wayner 29
[this and succeeding photos from Railroad Work Equipment and Special Service Cars, Robert J. Wayner, NY, ca. 1989]
29 - UP MoW machine transport and supply car #903801.
Easy kitbash.

Wayner 30b
30b - D&RGW #010796 three-way standard/narrow gauge coupler car on Alamosa-Antonito line.
This is an hermaphrodite car with a special draft gear casting holding a centered standard gauge coupler and with pockets to either side to hold the shank for a narrow gauge coupler, depending on which set of NG rails was being used (left hand in this instance).

Wayner 30c
30c - End detail of D&RGW #010796 hermaphrodite car.

Wayner 33a
33a - Reading 25-ton Scale Test Car #91202.

Wayner 33b
33b - Nevada Northern 17½-ton Scale Test Car #5000

Wayner 33c
33c - Clinchfield ???-ton Scale Test Car #1751.

This monster held a small gas engine in the shed for positioning and four hydraulic jacks (flanking the car number) to raise the car and put all its weight on a 7' (2.13m) section of scale track.

Scale test cars normally had no running brakes or consumables so that the weight did not change as brake shoes wore or other variables interfered with accuracy.

Wayner 54
54 - LIRR tool car #221 had lift-up hinged flaps along the sides for ease of access to contents.

Wayner 59a
59a - Unidentified small and very-large (32-wheel #207) Thermos-bottle/submarine/torpedo cars
for molten iron; similar cars are shown on my Schnabel RR Cars and other Giant Freight Cars page, et seq.

Wayner 59b
59b - Northwestern Steel & Wire's ex-Pullman Acadia (from the Sunset Limited)
used in scrap service at breaker's yard in Rockford, Illinois.

Wayner 60
60 - Pennsy parlor car #1734 in charter service for the Jersey Shore Commuters Club
between Bay Head Junction and NY's Pennsylvania Station.

Wayner 63
63 - Shades of John Allen's Gorre & Daphetid Impact Cars;
UP switch crew instruction car #95220 had clear side panels so that
impact results could be viewed and registered on the dial on the car side!

Wayner 70b
70b - Oddball B&O "waste disposal unit" (better not ask!).

Wayner 70c
[this and preceding photos from Railroad Work Equipment and Special Service Cars, Robert J. Wayner, NY, ca. 1989]
70c - IC #X2374 composite flat car (use unspecified - but see image 29
(the UP MoW machine transport and supply car #903801).

These should give you all sorts of ideas for modelling.

Those scale test cars above reminded me that I have an antique Stewart Scale Test Car model still sitting on my HO layout next to the steel-pit turntable, just where I left it some 20 years ago when I was out of the house and someone let a cat down in the basement (or a squirrel got in) and peed all over the turntable, test car, and all adjacent properties, virtually all of which rusted or corroded badly!  For some funny reason, I lost interest in the kit but here it is:

Stewart Scale Test Car
(04 Feb 04 photo by and © Copyright 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

T'aint a pretty sight!  The corrosion on top almost hides the stanchion bosses for the railing, but you can clearly see where the weight loading hatch goes.  A word to the wise, now that plastic couplers are available - USE THEM for the cast metal Stewart kit; the coupler pockets are NOT insulated!

If you like model railroading nonsense (and good tips), take a gander at Jim Wells' incredible

and at the AW NUTS Magazine site, "A Publication of the A.W. N.U.T.S. Garden Railway Society".

You may wish to visit the main Railroad Page, et seq.

of this series of Model Railroad pages.


  What happens to all this when I DIE or (heaven forfend!) lose interest?  See LEGACY.


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