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S. Berliner, III
Consultant in Ultrasonic Processing
"changing materials with high-intensity sound"

[consultation is on a fee basis]

Technical and Historical Writer, Oral Historian
Popularizer of Science and Technology
Rail, Auto, Air, Ordnance, and Model Enthusiast
Light-weight Linguist, Lay Minister, and Putative Philosopher

note - The vast bulk of my massive Web presence (over 485 pages) had been hosted by AT&T's WorldNet service since 30 May 1996; they dropped WorldNet effective 31 Mar 2010 and I have been scrambling to transfer everything.  Everything's saved but all the links have to be changed, mostly by hand.  See my sbiii.com Transfer Page for any updates on this tedious process.

S. Berliner, III's



NOTE:  Page size was limited by HTML to some 30kB;
thus, I was forced to add new pages just for Z-Scale, more Z-scale, and articles about Z-scale.


Some internal links, which work fine on my home page and others, may not work here!  I'm working on it, but haven't a clue; I even just copied the working links over and they may not work here.  So, scroll away, if necessary!

On the main Z-Scale page:

Scale and Gauge
Scale Conversion Table
Z-Scale Miscellany
Z-Scale Wiring Conventions
Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
    (moved to Z-Scale page 3 on 01 Jan 00)
Z-Scale Repair and Hobby Shops

On the Sub-Z-Scale Page :

Z-Scale Narrow Gauge (really)
    (moved from the main Z-Scale page 13 Nov 01)
Z-Scale Meter Gauge
Half-Z Scale - 1:440 Tiny Trains!
    (moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)
1:900 Scale - Tiniest Trains!
    (moved from Z-Scale page 3 on 13 Nov 01)

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 1:

Zictionary Part 1 ("A" - "M") - lotZ of wordZ
(moved from Page 4 on 31 Jul 00 and split on 28 May 01)!

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 1a:

Zictionary Part 2 ("N" - "Z") - lotZ of wordZ!

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 2:

Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal RR in Z
Z-SCALE DIMENSIONS (with how to approximate a mile of track).
Overton Coaches, Bobber, Crane and a Boxcab in Z! - plus other neat items.
Wish List - some goodieZ I'd like and some I have,
    like Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel and GN/WFEX Reefer
    and Larry Hoff's Bobber Caboose and Crane!
M-T Z SP Moguls - once the absolute top of the Wish List!*

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 3:

Z-Scale Vehicles and Märklin Rubber Autos
Power - Volts, Amps, Watts for Z.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 4:

Some More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z Boxcab Diesel
        and new HomaBed Z roadbed.

On the previous Z-Scale Continuation Page 5
(a page for the Third Millennium):

Even More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.
Microscopic Z Accessories.

On this Continuation Page 6
(a page of the Third Millennium):

V 32 001 Diesel Pneumatic in Z.
Yet More Z (all the latest!)
    including more on Freudenreich's Z products.
BEDT #14 in Z.
8800 vs. 8805.

On Z-Scale Continuation Page 7:

And More Z
    8620 Well/Depressed Center/Schnabel Cars

On the Ztrack page:

Ztrack Magazine

On the Z-Scale Articles page:

Z-Scale Hell Gate Bridge

On the first Model Railroad page:

Schnable Cars
Sunrise Trail Division (STD) of the
    Northeastern Region (NER) of the
    National Model Railroad Association (NMRA)
Long Island - Sunrise Trail Chapter (LIST) of the
    National Railway Historical Society (NRHS)
Long Island Live Steamers

On the second Model Railroad page:

  Vest Pocket Railroads You Can Model:
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad (but see below)
Degnon Terminal Railroad
Marion River Carry Railroad

On separate pages:

  Berlinerwerke-Z Script   Berlinerwerke-Z Saga
    Berlinerwerke-Z Saga Continuation Page
  Berlinerwerke Script   Berlinerwerke Saga (HO, included with Horseshoe Curve info.)
    Berlinerwerke Apocrypha (tall tales of the BW and its equipment and such).
    Schnable and other Giant RR Cars.



Z-Scale model railroading, at an incredible 220 times smaller than life size, or slightly under half the size of the familiar HO scale, with rails only 6.5mm (~¼") apart, continued ...

Z scale is about 2½ times smaller than HO!  In Z scale, a scale ¼-mile is exactly (and only) 6 feet; in other words, a mile is only 24 feet!

Because much information about Z scale is in German, you might find Chris Ozdoba's Eisenbahn- und Modellbahn-Wörterbuch - Deutsch-Englisch / Railroad and Model Railroading Dictionary - German-English of value.

Ztrack Magazine

The Newsletter for Z Scale Model Railroading

Ztrack now has a separate page of its own -

1924 V 32 001
Diesel Pneumatic
(Compressed Air)

(moved here from Z Pages 2 and 5 on 02 Jun 01)

We need no longer pray for (or plan on counterfeiting) a Z version of the Märklin HO #3420/3720 1924 Diesel-Compressed Air tank locomotive DRG Class V 32 4-6-4T Hudson-type, the Insider Model 1995 (see Page 33 of the 1995 New Items brochure) - Ztrack for May/June 2000, page 13, announced that the Märklin Insider Z Model for 2000 is just that, #88065 (and I had one on order and was eagerly awaiting delivery, ca. Xmas 2000 - it was rather late)!  LATE BREAKING NEWS - 03 Mar 2001 - I GOT IT!

Box for HO 3420 V-32 Diesel-Compr. Air Loco
Märklin 3420 Box

This is a sort of BOXCAB locomotive and, even rarer, a PNEUMATIC BOXCAB (an air box?)!

Esslingen Maschinen Fabrik started building it in 1924 and V 32 001 was finally delivered in 1929; they used a 1,000HP MAN 6-cylinder submarine diesel motor to run a 2-cylinder air compressor at about 100psi which, in turn, powered a standard steam-type engine with 27½" x 27½" cylinders by air heated to 350°C (662°F).  The 5' 3" (63") wheels had about 1,200-hp with which to work.

Aha!  Idly skimming through the "New for 1999" brochure yet again, I had noticed on page 10 that most singular silver radiator (the rear one) of the Esslingen one-off loco staring out at me.  This time, the engine appears to be painted blue* and is numbered V 120 001; it is part of the 37203 Diesel Forefathers set.  The write-up accompanying on page 11 states that the design was based on a Prussian State Railroad concept, that that V 32 001 was started in 1927 (instead of 1924), and that, after tests in 1929, it was shipped off to South Germany where it was used on an experimental basis for five years as number V 120 001 (wonder why?), and further that the project was halted because it offered no advantage over conventional steam.

* - Odd; the Insider 1999 info. on the Märklin Website shows all three "Diesel Forefathers" engines painted silver.  ???

Further, looking again at the old 1995 catalog photo of 3420/3720, I noticed that the cylinders are not jacketed; sure enough, close examination of the prototype photo in Nock (and my photos of a 3420) confirms that.  Not using steam, there was no need to insulate the cylinders and thus to jacket the insulation thereon.  However, if you are very nearsighted or use a magnifier, you will see that the #88065 cylinders ARE jacketed (from the #8806 model, most likely); oh, well, one can't have everything.

[must have been fun to try to keep them lubricated - although perhaps no harder than with wet steam].

Z V-32 Diesel-Compr. Air Loco
(Image courtesy of the Berlinerwerke-Z -
which, in itself, should tell you something!)

Hey, the V 32 was real, though, and I found (28 Feb 99) that I'd had a reference (besides the Märklin HO model) here, all along, "Locomotion - A Survey of Railway Traction", by O. S. Nock, Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1975, LoC 75-27489, ISBN 0-684-14528-6, pages 191-192.

You know, come to think of it, that's a pretty stupid drive system - reciprocating internal combustion to rotary motion to reciprocating compressor to compressed gas to reciprocating pneumatic to rotary motion!  But what a great loco to model!

Actually, I found out on 02 Nov 98 that all those panels along the upper left side which I had shown solid on my model "photo" are in fact windows.  On the Märklin 3420 HO model, there is a shaded line drawing {see below} behind them purporting to show the huge diesel engine that drove the air compressor.  The right side is almost blank (shades of the Shays), curving inward at the top.  The front (cylinder end) radiator is the water cooler and the narrower radiator at the back is the piston circulating oil cooler.

Z V 32 #88065 Z V 32 fake
(10 Mar 01 photo by and © Copyright 2001 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
[Thumbnail image on left - click on picture for much larger image.]

{Compare this photo with my photofake, above, and reproduced alongside at right,
and a free full vial of Z-scale microbes to whoever first notices the classic model
RR photographic gaffe of which I am guilty on the #88065 and flatly refuse to rectify.}

[So far, no one's taken me up on this!]

Having run out of room on my Z-Scale page 2, I'd put the pictures of my new (03 Mar 01) Märklin #88065 V 32 001 Diesel-Pneumatic (compressed air) locomotive on Z Scale Page 5 but had moved them again, here, when they disappeared; here are the left side, left front, left rear, right side, reshot, and the right rear (new):

#88065 Z V 32 001 L.S. #88065 Z V 32 001 L.F.

#88065 Z V 32 001L.R. #88065 Z V 32 001 R.S.

#88065 Z V 32 001 R.R.
(03 Jan 04 photos by and © Copyright 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)
{Missing - reshot (1 to be reshot)}

Note the incorrectly jacketed cylinders as explained above.  Note also the "Shay-like" asymmetry; the left side has those windows while the right is blank.

Now, I hate letting a detail get away and, through the great courtesy of Märklin (New Berlin and Göppingen), I am able to present here for the benefit of all owners of the #88065, the image of the diesel motor (left) and generator (right) that appears inside the HO V 32/120 models.  It is marked for both 1" (25.4mm) in HO and 0.3959" (10.056mm) in Z so that you can print it out in the correct size to fit inside your #88065.  Be sure to print it on fine-grain paper; you may wish to remove the window strip, thin it, and repolish it (or at least just polish it dead flat) so the image shows through better.  Then mount it on the left side of the model motor, being sure ot does not interfere with the body shell mounting lugs or the screw.

V 32 001 motor/generator
(Image courtesy of Märklin - reproduced and dimensioned by S. Berliner, III - 02 Jun 01)
{Missing - must find or reshoot}

The lower fold line, just below the top of the image, is how the card fits in the HO model and the diamond is a not a projection but a hole to clear the HO body mounting screw.  I hope to give more details of this modification after I figure out just how I am going to do the job.

For Z-scale construction articles (but NOT this one), see my Z Scale Articles Page.


(added to that on the preceding page)

Well, now!  Harald Freudenreich keeps on amazing me!  Here's a little cog railway boxcab electric loco he whipped up for the recent Göppingen (home of Märklin) show; it's on a modified ALCo-GE-IR chassis, drives on the outer axles, and may yet have (possibly-) working cog wheels on them.  It's the Swiss RHB (Rorschach Heiden Bergbahn*) Class DZeh2/4 and here is the model on display at the show:

RHB Cog DZeh2/4 show
(Image Apr-May 01 by H. Freudenreich - all rights reserved)
{Missing - must replace}

* - NOT the Rhätische Bahn (RhB),  The RHB is a 7 km (4.4 mi.) long standard gauge rack railway connecting Rorschach harbour (on the Bodensee) with the Heiden health resort about 400 m (1,312') higher up, while the RhB is a 1000 mm (39") narrow gauge network in the center of Switzerland.

[Rorschach - doesn't that have a blot on its reputation?
Also -
UPPER and lower case in reporting marks?]

And that just filled the preceeding page; so I had to put up this new one and move it!  I no sooner did that than the profusion of FR material prompted me to create a separate Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik page; on doing so, I soon discovered I had too much for one page and had to create a Freudenreich Feinwerktechnik continuation page 1!

And there's a real treat in store next!  In fact (27 Nov 01), there are several treats a'comin'!

This isn't the big treat, yet, but it IS pretty neat!  Harald has just (28 Oct 01) released a new hopper body style, the 31' Fishbelly type:

FR 31' Fishbelly Hopper
FR 31' Fishbelly Hopper
(Image 28 Oct 01 by H. Freudenreich - all rights reserved)

Talk about amazing!  It seems to be real; someone sent me these pictures of the Heckl Kleinserien KDL (klein Diesel Lok - small diesel loco) in Z, no less!  It is offered for 2002 in generic red and green and in DB red and black.  These were the DB's smallest locos and ran from their introduction in 1953 into the mid-80s.

Heckl KDL in Z
(unprovenanced photos of Heckl KDL in Z)

The model has all sorts of fine detail added - couplers, grab irons, railings, etc.  If that thing had a motor in it, let alone a flywheel, then "this I gotta see!", but, alas, it is only an accessory item (for looks, not for operation), however elegant.

BUT HOLD ON JUST A COTTON PICKIN', DOG-BONED MINUTE!  Dr. Andreas Scheibe of z-modellbau produces powered Z-scale KöF II and Glaskasten and other microloks and now Lájos Thek of L. G. Thek Brasswork makes even smaller powered loks!   new (07 Nov 2011)

Thek SW-00
(L. J. Thek Image - all rights reserved)

BEDT #14 in Z

(moved from Z page 5 on 31 May 01 and continued)

One of my oldest Z projects, still unstarted, is the old Adam Scull/ISM ALCo tank switcher body for the Märklin #8805 0-6-0T; I am going to make it into a reasonably accurate (if somewhat oversized) model of BEDT (Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal) 1920 Porter 0-6-0T #14.  "All" it requires (which is partly why I never even started the job), is that the bell be removed and the tank be extended almost all the way to the stack and the bell reinstalled on the tank top above where it had been.  Th-th-that's all, folks!  Well, here's that old casting, which I bought from Adam back ca. 1982 or so, with a "slightly" modified #8800* for comparison:

#8805 and ISM 0107 ALCo body 1 #8805 and ISM 0107 ALCo body 2

#8805 and ISM 0107 ALCo body 3 #8805 and ISM 0107 ALCo body 4
(Photos by and © 2001 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Well, I'd no sooner dug the casting out to send these pix to a friend than I was sent this picture of a brand new Westmodel release, announced at the recent (Feb 01) Nürnberg Toy Fair:

Westmodel Tank Switcher Shell
Westmodel Tank Switcher Shell

This is so finely detailed that I wondered if it isn't soldered, etched, sheet brass, rather than a lead die casting.  Aspen's and Westmodel's ads confirm that it IS brass, after all.

However, I shall stick to my old casting.  To make it into a vague semblance of the BEDT #14, as I noted, the bell (such as it is) has to be removed, the saddle tank extended forward almost to the stack, and the bell (or a better version - from Freudenreich?) replaced on top of the tank.  Here is the real #14 (in storage at the Arkville facility of the Ulster & Delaware Railroad Historical Society):   rev.gif (03 Aug 2004)

BEDT #14 at U&D
(photo courtesy of the Ulster & Delaware RRHS - all rights reserved)

I picked up an old #8800* chassis from the Stiskas (hoping for a 5-pole upgrade one of these days) and put the casting on it for a better idea of how it looks:

#8800 with ISM 0107 ALCo body 5 #8800 with ISM 0107 ALCo body 6

#8800 with ISM 0107 ALCo body 7 #8800 with ISM 0107 ALCo body 8
(Photos 31 May 01 by and © 2001 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

I'll also have to cut off the huge, visored headlamp and replace it with a smaller one with angled number boards.  The stack's O.K.; that's not a cap on #14, only a tin can or some such to keep rain out of the smokebox.

8800 vs. 8805

* - Well, I THOUGHT it was an 8800.  I have "always" known that the way to tell an old 8800 from a "newer" 8805 (and, one presumes, an 88051 without counting armature poles) is to check the gear plate on the bottom; those with only the three (3) driving axle gear wheels showing is an old 8800 and those with five (5) gears showing (the three driven axle gearwheels and two intermediate gear wheels) is an 8805.  Having said that, I find that I have it backwards!  Ken Brzenk at Märklin USA took the trouble to explain it to me back in May 1994 and I'd completely forgotten what he'd written (this is the straight poop):

"The #8800 loco has five inspection slots on the gear plate,
  while the #8805 loco has three."  -  (emphases mine)

Selah!  You have heard it from the source!

O. K.; simple enough.  I happened to turn over the "8805" dummy on which I'd mounted the old Scull/ISM ALCo casting for some reason and what to my wondering eyes did appear but only three gears!  I'd always thought all my oldies were 8805, with five (5) gears showing.  QUITE SO!  The dummy's an 8800 and all the others, even the one I bought brand-new in Dec 1980, are 8805's:

(12 Nov 01 photo by and © 2001 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Look carefully at the enlargement of the photo (already a microphoto) and you'll see (or take my word for it) that the five-gear plate is the one with truly microscopic lettering that says "8800  Märklin" on top and "Made in Germany" on the bottom!

8800 Bottom Plate
(Detail from 12 Nov 01 photo by and © 2001 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

Whoa!  Looking at Bowser's home page, there's a note stating that they make Z cars for Bob Olsen's PennZee {no website} (10-ton 3-bay hoppers and 40' steel reefers - I have the GN/WFEX) on Bowser's PennZee page and for the late Dr. John Kreider's Father Nature (34' wood reefer, which he lists as 40') on Bowser's Father Nature page!

I received a Father Nature #5005 Pluto Water 36' reefer (on 11 Feb 03, from Full Throttle); it's a little jewel!  Using my Z Scale Card/Scale Rule I quickly determined that the car is indeed a 34'er, NOT a 40'er (and definitely NOT a 36'er as I had previously - and erroneously - stated):

Father Nature #5005 Pluto Water 36' Reefer
Father Nature #5005 Pluto Water 36' Reefer
(11 Feb 03 photo by and © 2003 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

I found find my close-up lenses; now I can show you the reporting marks and road number and brake wheel on the end and those superb truss rods {as soon as I get a round tuit!} (hey! - there's no turnbuckle!) and stirrup steps.  Well done, Bowser!

Well, I got a round tuit, but not very well (I'll reshoot the end view):

FN #5005 Pluto Water 36' Reefer 1

FN #5005 Pluto Water 36' Reefer 2

FN #5005 Pluto Water 36' Reefer 3
(03 Jan 04 photos by and © 2004 S. Berliner, III - all rights reserved)

The end detail is still a bit blurred but the planking on the underside of the floor shows up rather well (why planking but no brake detail?).

Best regardZ,  S.B.,III

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